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Giuliani is racking up over 40% of the straw poll votes here (I could be remembering this wrong, but I'm too lazy to look it up), so it'd be quite the surprise for everyone involved if he ends up losing somehow. If that does happen, I expect this to go to Romney.
One thing's for sure, though: if Ron Paul wins Iowa, he almost certainly wins the nomination. But he's not going to win Iowa, so no biggie here.
Democrats
Hillary is still ahead of all the other candidates, but she hasn't been doing much in Iowa - her image there has been essentialized into a few last minute pep-talks and a small contingent of staffers. Meanwhile, Obama's been in here for several weeks trying to get the support of the grassroots democratic supporters who might not be accurately reflected in straw polls. Also Edwards, but he sucks.
Regardless, Hillary is still the favorite, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if Obama wins this one.
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"What is the greatest threat facing us now? People will say its terrorism. But are there any terrorists in the world who can change the American way of life or our political system? No. Can they knock down a building? Yes. Can they kill somebody? Yes. But can they change us? No. Only we can change ourselves. So what is the great threat we are facing? - Colin Powell
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"What is the greatest threat facing us now? People will say its terrorism. But are there any terrorists in the world who can change the American way of life or our political system? No. Can they knock down a building? Yes. Can they kill somebody? Yes. But can they change us? No. Only we can change ourselves. So what is the great threat we are facing? - Colin Powell
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I know 3 candidates, one of whom I was reminded of just now (hint: starts with a G) and know nothing of him (I'm assuming it's a he as Hillary is the only woman...I think). Anywho...yea...weak....
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All you need to know about Rudy Giuliani is that every one of his sentences consists of a noun, a verb, and 9/11.
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Well, yes, but despite that appealing notion, her stances on other policies make her an unattractive candidate.
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He's an idiot, and a complete Douche. I saw him interviewed on Glenn Beck's show. He's a complete fucking idiot.
He claims that "Al Aqaeda is weak, and ALWAYS has been weak and is no threat."
And he also said that as soon as the Americans leave the middle east, everyone will stop trying to kill the US. lol Bull shit.
Of course, I'd take him over Hillary any day.
I may be Canadian, but I've been following the news in the US because I watch CNN a lot.
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lol glenn beck
srsly
He claims that "Al Aqaeda is weak, and ALWAYS has been weak and is no threat."
Well: http://www.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/story/0,12780,1327904,00.html
He tells the story of Islamism, or the desire to establish Islam as an unbreakable political framework, as half a century of mostly failed, short-lived revolutions and spectacular but politically ineffective terrorism. Curtis points out that al-Qaida did not even have a name until early 2001, when the American government decided to prosecute Bin Laden in his absence and had to use anti-Mafia laws that required the existence of a named criminal organisation.Maybe the idea that Al-Qaida is a highly-organized agency of effective political reform requires some examination.
Curtis also cites the Home Office's own statistics for arrests and convictions of suspected terrorists since September 11 2001. Of the 664 people detained up to the end of last month, only 17 have been found guilty. Of these, the majority were Irish Republicans, Sikh militants or members of other groups with no connection to Islamist terrorism. Nobody has been convicted who is a proven member of al-Qaida.
And he also said that as soon as the Americans leave the middle east, everyone will stop trying to kill the US. lol Bull shit.
Not as unlikely as you think. Currently extremists are able to generate support for at least suicide missions against the United States largely because it's an occupying force. Should we vacate the area, they won't have their primary channel of recruitment - American interventionism - and it's tough to convince people to come over here and blow themselves up just to stop the distribution of corrupt western values or whatever it is Muslim extremists are supposed to be concerned about.
Of course then we have enlightened pundits like Glenn Beck who postulate that the driving force of terrorism is the desire to establish an international caliphate, and we're forced to laugh at these people, because otherwise we'd have to beat them with bats for suggesting we take up arms and bend our foreign policy backward to deal (ineffectively, one might add) with a movement about as threatening to national security as radical Marxism.
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Well, yes, but despite that appealing notion,
So your say all of us law abiding gun owners should give up our guns? You are screwed in the head. Because if that happens there will be a huge influx of guns being owned by outlaws and by outlaws I don't mean gang members and such I mean private citzens that where forced to give up one of there rights because some stupid cunt is against guns. If she has her way only the police and miliarty will own guns which is wrong. I own several guns alot of my friends and relatives do to. But we don't use them for anything more than hunting. I own 5 shotguns 1 rifle and a pistol. all of them used for hunting expcet the pistol thats more for target shooting out at the gun range.
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So stupid, it's funny!
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Yes, actually, though ideally you wouldn't even have guns to begin with.
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But Huckabee - Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?
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He does have a point though. Okinawa rules! Though the throwing fan isn't really from Okinawa, they were mostly just fishermen.
Well Obama's winning, thank God.
But Huckabee - Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?
What's with the Obama girl? Is that real or just a rumour?
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Now hopefully the Obama bandwagon can gain more steam and obliterate all resistance.
Was hoping for Romney to stop Huckabee though, but wasn't too surprised he failed at it. McCain is my fallback, because I doubt anyone else could stop him.
Though McCain would likely be much harder to beat in a general election, so... =/
Still, Huckabee... I'd also cry if he were elected.
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Message last edited by xp1337 on 1/3/2008 at 09:58:18 PM
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I'm nevertheless irritated that Romney lost and amused at Giuliani's epic failure. Clearly I overestimated his name recognition, eh?
McCain probably has the best chances in New England but I think he's going to get cut off by Giuliani and Romney what with New York and Mass. being their home states.
Obama just got a ridiculous victory and I must say I'm terribly disappointed to see somebody as useless as Edwards in second place and someone as insidious as Clinton a close third. It seems you Democrats can only make one good collective choice at a time!
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http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/29/huckabee-floats-idea-of-sending-hillary-clinton-to-space/
"Whether it's the medical technologies that saved many of our lives and the lives of our families, it's the direct result from the space program," he said. "We need to put more money into space and technology exploration."
So the solution to our health care problem is to send people to Mars.
I like the way this man thinks!
Also, CHUCK NORRIS YEAH
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>_> I hope you realize I'm kidding. I'm all for owning/practicing with weapons.
Though the throwing fan isn't really from Okinawa, they were mostly just fishermen.
Yea, it didn't look like an Okinawan creation, but I just ran out of weapon examples that I could think of. <_<
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"What is the greatest threat facing us now? People will say its terrorism. But are there any terrorists in the world who can change the American way of life or our political system? No. Can they knock down a building? Yes. Can they kill somebody? Yes. But can they change us? No. Only we can change ourselves. So what is the great threat we are facing? - Colin Powell
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