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WhiteHouse says Fox News isn't a legitimate news outlet.
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Tengu Ghost Posted: 10/12/2009 3:55:04 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 001
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So now that fox news won't tow the party line an claim that obama is the greatest thing since sliced bread,by whitehouse standards they are no longer considered a "Legitimate news outlet."

http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2009/10/12/white-house-says-it-fox-news-not-a-legitimate-news-outlet/
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Mega Sonic Posted: 10/12/2009 6:44:01 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 002
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u kidin me

Fox News was never a legitimate news outlet
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Eel Posted: 10/12/2009 6:46:01 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 003
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Yep. Fox is purely for entertainment purposes. Even their news network is more of a parody than a legitimate source of news.
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Phantom Fox Posted: 10/12/2009 10:27:25 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 004
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I understand your Republican, but Fox News is not being called out because it isn't sucking Obama's dick. It's being called out because of blatant lies and misinformation they spread or help propogate, such as the birther movement bullshit, the death panel garbage, the support of anti-census sentiment, FEMA Concentration camps, and other such fiascos.

It's for having little weasels like Glenn Beck whom say things such as "I think it's obvious that Obama has a deep seated hatred for white culture" and then refuse to back up or explain what they mean by this. It's for putting a WAR CRIMINAL on their payroll.

They're a media outlet that is more interested in riling up their base and feeding them the sort of bullshit they want to hear than actually objectively portraying the news, all the while complaining about dat dere "liberal media" while the supposed liberal media fails to call them out on this bullshit.

I mean if Fox News is your thing, than I don't really care, but the Whitehouse is more than justified in calling them out.
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 10/12/2009 11:10:50 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 005
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CNN had Beck for a while. Token conservative etc.

I don't watch TV news (except for the ever-hilarious financial news), so I don't know much about Fox News compared to other channels. I also haven't been following politics lately so I don't know what shenanigans these folks have been up to recently.

I will say however that the White House press team "calling out" news organizations, however blatant the propaganda, on political matters demonstrates a great lack of decorum. If, for instance, Fox News were spreading some jive about an impending natural disaster, yes, the White House may feel compelled to issue a facepalm, in which case they are acting well within their prerogative. Denouncing fictive political accusations, however, breaks whatever veil of benevolent political indifference the executive branch is supposed to possess. The key difference is that one action exercises vested authority for the benefit of others, whereas the other does so for the benefit of oneself.

Will this statement convince Fox News fans that they're consuming baseless drivel? No. Will this statement convince Fox News detractors that Fox News sucks? No, they already think it does. Will this statement shift the opinion of anyone who, like me, doesn't give a shit about the legitimacy of Fox News? No, because we don't give a shit. Will this statement affect the disposition of an arbitrary minority of people concerned about whether or not Fox News is terrible but too stupid to make up their own minds using what resources are presently available? Maybe. Depends on just how stupid they are. There isn't much substance here.

Ultimately, the move is a politically-motivated jab at the Republican Party, not a public service, and anyone who approves clearly views the supposed role of the executive branch much differently than I do.
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Phantom Fox Posted: 10/12/2009 11:25:29 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 006
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You are correct, it is not the supposed role of the executive branch. You're also correct that it is completely politically motivated.

Those are legitamite reasons to be upset about this move by the white house. My main point was that the drivel Fox News pumps out can hardly be called objective news, or even actual news half the time due to the pure amount of misinformation they spread. DF's original point was that this was purely because they do not throw support behind Obama and I was responding by pointing out there is a plethora of reasons to claim Fox News is not a legitimate news source and the Whitehouse's statement is justified in that regard.

Whether it was goodform or even something the Whitehouse should be doing with is of course up to debate, and I do agree with you that the executive branch should probably keep their nose out of these matters.

This is of course assuming your post was in regards to mine.
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Phantom Fox Posted: 10/12/2009 11:31:18 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 007
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I should note I was a bit caught up in my original post. I did not portray this view very well and should have made it more clear.
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 10/12/2009 11:43:33 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 008
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My post was in fact a response to yours.

DF's original point was that this was purely because they do not throw support behind Obama and I was responding by pointing out there is a plethora of reasons to claim Fox News is not a legitimate news source and the Whitehouse's statement is justified in that regard.

This is true, in which case I agree with your comments.

The White House is far from the source of the claim that Fox News is illegitimate; Fox has been labeled a joke news station for years now, from everybody on every part of the political spectrum. The fact that the network doesn't actively support the Obama administration is not the motivation for this statement. A multitude of news sources do not support Obama - Fox News is not the sole resister in a sea of brainwashed zombies some people seem to think it is.

Fox News is simply terrible, and has been for a while.
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Phantom Fox Posted: 10/12/2009 11:48:58 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 009
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Cool. Glad we got that straightened out.
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Kodan Posted: 10/13/2009 4:00:26 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 010
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At least FOX News talks about different stuff each night, instead of bitching, moaning and crying over some dead/missing kid or some dead/missing whore every single day for hours on end. *coughCNN/HLNcough*
That's real news right there! Yup, the entire world is going to change disccusing/complaining about some kid/whore.
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Tengu Ghost Posted: 10/13/2009 7:46:05 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 011
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Honestly I couldn't give 2 shits about fox news or any other news station the white house deems not legitimate news outlet. I just found it funny,besides the only news station I watch is my local news and 99% of the time thats just for the weather. And dia I'm not really republican or democrat or liberal. The past 3 presidental elections I have voted for who I figured was the lesser of 2 evils. I voted for bush twice an McCain cause they where making obama out to be some kinda fucking god. Because he is black.
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Eel Posted: 10/13/2009 2:33:18 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 012
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Because he is black.

And there's the reason.
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Tengu Ghost Posted: 10/13/2009 8:39:01 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 013
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I know eel,hell half the blacks think just cause he is in office now,that he is gonna take care of them. Which is about the truth as I heard on the radio the other week that this year ALONE that the obama administration will spend 7x MORE that the bush admin did on the war his whole 2 terms.
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Mega Sonic Posted: 10/21/2009 2:29:24 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 014
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xfd at Fox News's latest poll

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2009/10/19/white-house-attacking-fox-news/

hilarious
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