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| Ogordemir99 | Posted: 5/5/2014 8:30:27 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 001 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | I haven't played any of these systems and even I know the Wii sucks. ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ "The sciences have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." ~ H.P Lovecraft, The Call of Cthulhu |
| Kodan | Posted: 5/5/2014 6:34:44 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 002 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | So does your Mom! Bam! <-> http://www.backloggery.com/kodan882 |
| Eel | Posted: 5/5/2014 8:13:08 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 003 |
| Level: 44 DSB Moderator | I'm just glad that the poll no longer takes up an entire screen. --- "In the best relationships, nobody wears the pants." |
| Scorpion 316 | Posted: 5/5/2014 8:24:08 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 004 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | That's what she said. +++ "If that hit you in the chest, I'm sorry. I was aiming for your crotch." - Deadpool Steam: Indignatron |
| Kodan | Posted: 5/5/2014 8:54:47 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 005 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Who gave the Wii a sympathy vote? <-> http://www.backloggery.com/kodan882 |
| Kenri of the Yuri | Posted: 5/7/2014 5:02:23 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 006 |
| Level: 43 Editor | I think you can make a legitimate case for any of the three consoles due to how the way we used to judge the best console changing last gen. In the NES gen through the GCN/PS2/Xbox gen, one usually went by exclusives because there were a lot of them and most non-exclusives hit every platform. But last gen that changed -- non-exclusives hit only 360 and PS3, usually, and there were a lot more of them. The Wii didn't get those, but it got way more exclusives than either other system. But at the same time, exclusives were devalued. PS3 and 360 ended up being basically the same console, while the Wii was almost entirely different. Both cases render comparison difficult, and especially when taken together. I think you can make comparisons between any two consoles -- but once you include all three, it gets hairy. --- "You're childish. What are you getting? Are you getting strawberry? Ha! That's such a childish flavor, only children eat strawberry." |
| Kodan | Posted: 5/7/2014 5:51:38 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 007 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | The Wii didn't get many multiplats because the system was a piece of shit. The multiplats it DID get had to be heavily modified. Take Call of Duty 4 for example. (Yes yes, lolcallofduty, blah blah blah) The Wii is such a piece of shit, Ground War (9v9) doesn't exist because the system can't handle 18 players on the map, and Team Deathmatch was limited to 4v4 (8 players) instead of 6v6 (12 players) <-> http://www.backloggery.com/kodan882 |
| Message last edited by Kodan on 5/8/2014 at 07:42:41 AM. | |
| Ogordemir99 | Posted: 5/7/2014 6:23:24 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 008 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | So does your Mom! Bam! what is it with you and other peoples' mothers ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ "The sciences have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." ~ H.P Lovecraft, The Call of Cthulhu |
| Kodan | Posted: 5/7/2014 6:36:12 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 009 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | I find yo momma jokes hilarious. <-> http://www.backloggery.com/kodan882 |
| xp1337 | Posted: 5/8/2014 7:24:53 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 010 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | I went for the PS3. I only got it relatively late, but once I did I felt like every multiplatform game I had on the 360 I should have had on the PS3. Partly because I've had shaky luck with 360 hardware failures but still. Wii is kind of weird for the reasons Kenri mentioned. It has some great exclusives, but well... that's basically it (IMO). It's basically all by itself and almost feels like it's part of an entirely different conversation. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? |
| Kenri of the Yuri | Posted: 5/8/2014 10:28:41 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 011 |
| Level: 43 Editor | The Wii didn't get many multiplats because the system was a piece of shit. The multiplats it DID get had to be heavily modified. The Wii was definitely the weaker console, but that doesn't change my point that multiplats were treated differently last gen than in any previous gen. That likely would have been true even if the Wii didn't exist. Take Call of Duty 4 for example. (Yes yes, lolcallofduty, blah blah blah) The Wii is such a piece of shit, Ground War (9v9) doesn't exist because the system can't handle 18 players on the map, and Team Deathmatch was limited to 4v4 (8 players) instead of 6v6 (12 players) The GCN can - in theory, at least - render 128+ separate characters each with their own health bars, so you can believe that the Wii was incapable of 18 OR you can believe that Activision was, contrary to what you claimed, too lazy to modify their game significantly, so they just took a machete to certain features until it worked. Mind, I'm not claiming CoD4 could have been ported directly. Obviously if it could've been, it would've been. But you can't claim "this didn't happen, so it was impossible" without more evidence. Might as well claim that the 360 is weaker than the PS2 because of shitty Silent Hill ports. --- "You're childish. What are you getting? Are you getting strawberry? Ha! That's such a childish flavor, only children eat strawberry." |
| Kodan | Posted: 5/8/2014 11:16:57 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 012 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Believe it or not, but on quite a few maps when A LOT of shit was happening at the same time, ground war could literally drop the frame rate on the 360. Given that you have 18 players on the ground fighting, A LOT of shit was common. Hell, in a few instances I actually had the frame rate on TDM drop. If the 360 was able to lose some frames now and again, the Wii, a MUCH weaker system, would do it a hell of a lot more. <-> http://www.backloggery.com/kodan882 |
| Kenri of the Yuri | Posted: 5/9/2014 9:44:53 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 013 |
| Level: 43 Editor | Yes, it probably would have lost frames -- but there's no reason to believe that if it was actually optimized and modified for the Wii, it would have dropped significantly more frames than the 360. It's all in how the game is ported over. For example, the PS3 drops frames on ZoE2, which ran perfectly on the PS2. This doesn't mean the PS2 is more powerful than the PS3. Unfortunately, making good ports takes time and effort, and Activision has always been more of a TV dinner kind of company. --- "You're childish. What are you getting? Are you getting strawberry? Ha! That's such a childish flavor, only children eat strawberry." |
| Message last edited by Kenri of the Yuri on 5/9/2014 at 09:45:15 PM. | |
| Kodan | Posted: 5/9/2014 9:51:34 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 014 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Well, yeah. I'd say roughly 95-98% of their Call of Duty console market was on the 360 and PS3 <_< Why would they invest extra to port a game onto a system where only a few people are going to buy? According to this: (Which is a bit dated) http://www.vgchartz.com/article/250163/call-of-duty-a-sales-history/ The wii has only sold a total of 5.66 million units of games, while the PS3 and 360 have sold 45.42 million and 59.85 million respectively. <-> http://www.backloggery.com/kodan882 |
| Message last edited by Kodan on 5/9/2014 at 09:52:07 PM. | |
| Kodan | Posted: 5/10/2014 12:12:56 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 015 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Poor PSP <-> http://www.backloggery.com/kodan882 |
| xp1337 | Posted: 5/10/2014 9:12:28 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 016 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | PSP getting wrecked. =( --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? |
| Kodan | Posted: 5/10/2014 11:23:02 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 017 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | I... Honestly didn't see much of a reason to own a PSP <_< So I skipped it. I got a DSi XL though. I own a vita though. ...My most played game on it is a PSP game, ironically enough. (Disgaea 2 IS TOO GOOD) However, FFX HD is quickly catching up. <-> http://www.backloggery.com/kodan882 |
| Message last edited by Kodan on 5/10/2014 at 11:28:14 AM. | |
| GameCobra | Posted: 5/10/2014 3:37:46 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 018 |
| Level: 37 Advanced | We have a Wii hooked up at work. It hasn't been shut down for 2 years. To be fair, though, the other systems weren't left on 24/7 like the Wii, but I also have my Wii and regular DS and they still work fine as opposed to my Playstations over the years. Nintendo products these days is showing me that while they aren't in the popular range as the other consoles, they are definitely damn durable. Another thing I like about the Wii is the games that you can buy from the old SNES and Commodore times are in their complete original quality. I can even hear the nostalgic noises and sounds as opposed to the other consoles. To compare, I played Final Fantasy Tactics on the PS2 and PS3 and certain noises just don't translate over properly for some reason. same goes for Resident Evil 1,23 and 4. I don't get why these things happen! Argh. --- "But friends, i ask you. What is a GameCobra? From where does it come? Who are it's people?" - A Random Day on World of Warcraft "Failure is beneath Doom!" - Dr. Doom, MvC3 |
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