Liberal Arts Major
This might result in tragedy.
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~ Ogordemir ~
"The sciences have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." ~ H.P Lovecraft, The Call of Cthulhu
Liberal Arts Major
I have spells planned out for all of you with third classes, but I'm still coming up with names. >_>
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~ Ogordemir ~
"The sciences have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." ~ H.P Lovecraft, The Call of Cthulhu
Liberal Arts Major
SP Cost: 75
Cost: 10,000
Level: 25
Tier: Paladin, Templar, Crusader
Targets: One enemy
Description: How many cuts does it take to get to the center of an evildoer?
Effect: Hits 5 times scaling down from 3x Atk with each hit. If the enemy defends this skill does nothing but waste SP. Damage formula is double on dark forces and half on light. (3x -> 2.5x -> 2x -> 1.5x -> 1x Atk)
Name: Forgotten Tome
Type: Weapon
Cost: 6,000
Class: Occultist
Level: 5
Boost: +100 MATK, +10 DEF, +40 SP
Description: A dusty old tome containing many lost texts, including real ways to increase the size of your... mana pool!
Name: Dusty Robe
Type: Armor
Cost: 5,000
Class: Occultist
Level: 10
Boost: +50 MATK, +30 DEF, +15 MDEF
Description: If you're gonna read old books, you may as well wear old magic robes.
Name: Ungodly Thick Encyclopedia
Type: Shield
Cost: 8,000
Class: Occultist
Level: 15
Boost: 50 DEF, 50 MDEF
Description: Sometimes even you need to look something up, thankfully this book has a strap to hold it to your arm!
Name: Scholarly Beret
Type: Helmet
Cost: 6,000
Class: Occultist, all Tier IX classes.
Level: 1
Boost: DEF +15, MDEF +15, SP +10
Description: Look even smarter than you already should be.
Name: Human Lightbulb
SP Cost: 100
Cost: 10,000
Level: 10
Tier: Occultist, possibly other Tier IX classes.
Targets: One Foe, All Foes.
Description: You once read how to turn a potato into a lightbulb. Curiously enough, it works on people, but in a much more spectacular way.
Effect: Turns one foe into a turn-by-turn source of damage on itself and it's allies. Initial cast goes by normal MATK formulas on one target but each turn after that is a steady 50 damage on the intended target and 25 on the others for three turns. Obviously if the foe is of lightning element, this won't work.
Name: Novelty Sword
Type: Weapon
Cost: 7,000
Class: Navigator
Level: 1
Boost: ATK +120, DEF +10
Description: Normally hangs on a wall and looks pretty, but is surprisingly sharp and has a good handguard.
Name: Trusty Side-Arm
Type: Shield/Off-Hand
Cost: 6,000
Class: Navigator
Level: 5
Boost: Atk +50, DEF +15
Description: A trusty gun in case someone decides to question your directions. Surprisingly sturdy and able to possibly block a knife or two.
Name: Longcoat
Type: Armor
Cost: 10,000
Class: Navigator
Level: 10
Boost: DEF +40, SPD +10
Description: A blue longcoat adorned with medals that is surprisingly easy to move around in.
Name: Waterproof Boots
Type: Boots
Cost: 9,000
Class: Navigator, Captain, anything boat related. >_>
Level: 5
Boost: DEF +15, MDEF +10, SPD +5
Description: Secure, dry boots that seem to fair well in high waters.
Name: Backup Plan
SP Cost: 100
Cost: 10,000
Level: 1
Tier: Navigator
Target: Allies
Description: A smart one always plots two courses.
Effect: Flees from the battle, but allows earning of EXP/Gold from enemies successfully killed instead of forfeiting it all.
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Yeah, have fun with that. <_<
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"Enough is enough! I have had it with these monkey-fighting snakes on this Monday-to-Friday plane!" - TV Edited Snakes on a Plane
Liberal Arts Major
SP Cost: 100
Cost: 10,000
Level: 1
Tier: Navigator
Target: Allies
Description: A smart one always plots two courses.
Effect: Flees from the battle, but allows earning of EXP/Gold from enemies successfully killed instead of forfeiting it all.
This looks like an artifact. >_>
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~ Ogordemir ~
"The sciences have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." ~ H.P Lovecraft, The Call of Cthulhu
Liberal Arts Major
<_< So? There's no artifacts around right now. Plus it makes sense. >_>
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"Enough is enough! I have had it with these monkey-fighting snakes on this Monday-to-Friday plane!" - TV Edited Snakes on a Plane
Liberal Arts Major
Almost true. Your Map is technically an artifact. I may make that the product of a quest that involves Navigators in some way.
Also, I made many of those Navigator items, with different level requirements/costs/boosts. >_>
EDIT:
Khamul plotted a course through treacherous waters!
Bass was attacked by a shark, losing 41 HP!
Bass was killed!
Giant Octopus was attacked by a shark, losing 31 HP!
Salmon was attacked by a shark, losing 39 HP!
Salmon was killed!
Salmon was attacked by a kraken, losing 73 HP!
Salmon was killed!
Bass was attacked by a kraken, losing 76 HP!
Bass was killed!
Bass was attacked by a fish, losing 5 HP!
Gandalf emerged unscathed!
Khamul emerged unscathed!
The Fourth emerged unscathed!
The Sixth emerged unscathed!
Pony 1 emerged unscathed!
Maybe it's not so bad.
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~ Ogordemir ~
"The sciences have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." ~ H.P Lovecraft, The Call of Cthulhu
Message last edited by Ogordemir99 on 1/3/2010 at 07:18:50 PM
Liberal Arts Major
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"Enough is enough! I have had it with these monkey-fighting snakes on this Monday-to-Friday plane!" - TV Edited Snakes on a Plane
Liberal Arts Major
1. Mounts that were unequipped and not dead were screwing with (a) the action-insertion process and (b) the team-list-generating process.
2. Mounts that were equipped but, unlike the characters riding them, were still alive, were screwing with those as well.
Both of these should be fixed, however there still exists the possibility that (2)(b) is messed up in some places. Out of 200-plus potentially relevant functions, I could have missed something. >_>
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~ Ogordemir ~
"The sciences have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." ~ H.P Lovecraft, The Call of Cthulhu
Message last edited by Ogordemir99 on 1/3/2010 at 11:30:50 PM
Liberal Arts Major
Wow, EXP gains got destroyed.
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xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out?
Liberal Arts Major
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~ Ogordemir ~
"The sciences have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." ~ H.P Lovecraft, The Call of Cthulhu
Editor
Fist attacked Sorlt, dealing 178 damage!
Archer cast Magic Blast! Sorlt was hit with a magical ball of energy, taking 98 damage!
Archer cast Magic Blast! Sorlt was hit with a magical ball of energy, taking 98 damage!
Sorlt was killed!
**** you Sorlit. <_<
You've earned 42 gold and 21 experience points.
Double **** you Sorlit.
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"There's a pony in the shop, but don't buy it. It might do something unfortunate to you." ~from the first Summoner's Seal topic
Message last edited by Kenri of the Yuri on 1/4/2010 at 12:09:23 AM
Liberal Arts Major
Defeating two enemies for 6 EXP? my god.
A single squirrel could outdo that before. >_>
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xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out?
Liberal Arts Major
Archer cast Magic Blast! Sorlt was hit with a magical ball of energy, taking 98 damage!
This looks wrong.
The experience looks right. We're just missing an intermediate between the ocean and Sorlit. >_>
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~ Ogordemir ~
"The sciences have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." ~ H.P Lovecraft, The Call of Cthulhu
Editor
It looks awesome.
The experience looks right. We're just missing an intermediate between the ocean and Sorlit. >_>
you kidding
sorlit gives 24 exp
i'd rather fight squirrels
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"There's a pony in the shop, but don't buy it. It might do something unfortunate to you." ~from the first Summoner's Seal topic
Liberal Arts Major
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xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out?
Liberal Arts Major
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~ Ogordemir ~
"The sciences have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." ~ H.P Lovecraft, The Call of Cthulhu
Editor
I don't even understand the current experience formula, much less have any ideas about how to change it. <_<
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"There's a pony in the shop, but don't buy it. It might do something unfortunate to you." ~from the first Summoner's Seal topic
Liberal Arts Major
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Except upside down.
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~ Ogordemir ~
"The sciences have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." ~ H.P Lovecraft, The Call of Cthulhu
Liberal Arts Major
I'm not a fan of the apparent "overkill actually hurts your EXP" especially since given the options as it stands, that equates to essentially "find a way to nerf your own teams damage output artificially because aside from like, Sorlit, who on the whole isn't worth fighting at such a low EXP drop (relative to other choices), you're so far above them that you'd be penalizing yourself."
Because really that means I'm at a point where I'd have to unequip myself to lower my stats because I'm doing this damage with normal attacks so what else am I supposed to do to lower the output?
To be honest, I think the "problem" is how it's 1000 EXP for every level. Because that means you have to make it practical to level for new characters, but then why would you ever leave that area later unless there's an area you can go that seems to be more "worth" it.
Nerfing the squirrels might be successful to slow down higher level characters, but you do it too much and how do new characters level-up?
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xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out?
Liberal Arts Major
This appears to be the problem as well. I'm thinking I might be better off trying a piecewise function, or in some way index growth to total level.
Another problem, relevant to your other point, is that the absolute value is taken, so large negative values are treated as large positive values, and this severely undermines exp from e.g. Sorlit.
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~ Ogordemir ~
"The sciences have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." ~ H.P Lovecraft, The Call of Cthulhu
Liberal Arts Major
Like say the Squirrel had a recommended level of 5 (this could be a hidden value, or given).
If your team is Level 5, then you get the normal EXP for it. If it's lower than 5 then maybe some additional % of the base EXP (or just the normal), and if you're over level 5, there's a penalty to it, increasing the further you get from 5.
You might have to consider if it can compare this against each individual party member if their levels differ and thus would be getting different EXP amounts. (I would NOT recommend Party Average here because you probably could easily "trick" it by creating a bunch of new characters, pairing them with a higher level one just to destroy the party average and increase the gain. Maybe take the highest level in the party at the time and base it on that if you didn't want to deal with the possibility of different level characters simultaneously.
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xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out?
Liberal Arts Major
This is a bit of a problem no matter what the EXP system is, I think, but it'd be huge in a "penalty" system.
But again, this is more of a current issue rather than long term where presumably there'd be more enemies.
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xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out?
Editor
That would allow for a decent amount of EXP. >_>
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"There's a pony in the shop, but don't buy it. It might do something unfortunate to you." ~from the first Summoner's Seal topic
Liberal Arts Major
However, the Squirrel EXP honestly isn't that bad. You could very easily still sit there as a new player and grind. It takes longer than it used to, but it's still easily doable and considering HOW easy it is the longer time is not a problem. However, fish EXP is still rather low for the amount of difficulty involved since even if you can kill them at a decent rate, they can still get lucky on you too in some cases since FT is so powerful. <_<
EDIT:
Deeper Waters = Mother Kraken and stuff for good EXP gains. Go for it, Ogor.
Or add an island for my turtles...
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"Enough is enough! I have had it with these monkey-fighting snakes on this Monday-to-Friday plane!" - TV Edited Snakes on a Plane
Message last edited by Scorpion 316 on 1/4/2010 at 12:54:09 AM
Liberal Arts Major
This is doable.
You might have to consider if it can compare this against each individual party member if their levels differ and thus would be getting different EXP amounts. (I would NOT recommend Party Average here because you probably could easily "trick" it by creating a bunch of new characters, pairing them with a higher level one just to destroy the party average and increase the gain. Maybe take the highest level in the party at the time and base it on that if you didn't want to deal with the possibility of different level characters simultaneously.
All of the options I'm presently considering would award different experience to different party members based on their levels.
But again, this is more of a current issue rather than long term where presumably there'd be more enemies.
True, the lack of an intermediate/the size of the gap between enemies is currently a problem. But there still appears to be a flaw in the basic logic of the level system.
However, the Squirrel EXP honestly isn't that bad. You could very easily still sit there as a new player and grind. It takes longer than it used to, but it's still easily doable and considering HOW easy it is the longer time is not a problem. However, fish EXP is still rather low for the amount of difficulty involved since even if you can kill them at a decent rate, they can still get lucky on you too in some cases since FT is so powerful. <_<
I see.
Kenri's idea is doable, but I won't do it now. >_>
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~ Ogordemir ~
"The sciences have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." ~ H.P Lovecraft, The Call of Cthulhu
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=(
Unrelated question: what kind of things do Galerunners do? <_<
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"There's a pony in the shop, but don't buy it. It might do something unfortunate to you." ~from the first Summoner's Seal topic
Liberal Arts Major
Sexy things. I'll handle that class. >_>
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~ Ogordemir ~
"The sciences have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." ~ H.P Lovecraft, The Call of Cthulhu
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"There's a pony in the shop, but don't buy it. It might do something unfortunate to you." ~from the first Summoner's Seal topic
Liberal Arts Major
Turn 1
Crokus attacked Ekolt, dealing 0 damage!
Crokus attacked Ekolt, dealing 0 damage!
Crokus attacked Ekolt, dealing 0 damage!
Crokus attacked Ekolt, dealing 0 damage!
Ekolt attacked Crokus, dealing 66 damage!
Ekolt created a bulwark!
Ekolt cast Divert!
Apsalar's action was redirected!
Ekolt attacked Anomander, dealing 52 damage!
Ekolt cast Judgment!
The heavens rain judgment on Anomander, dealing 77 damage!
The heavens rain judgment on Apsalar, dealing 124 damage!
The heavens rain judgment on Crokus, dealing 83 damage!
The heavens rain judgment on Quick Ben, dealing 42 damage!
In a flash, Apsalar struck Apsalar, dealing 57 damage!
Apsalar was poisoned!
Quick Ben cast Energy Cylinder on Ekolt, dealing 0 damage!
Ekolt attacked Apsalar, dealing 60 damage!
Apsalar was defeated!
Ekolt stirred up some birds!
Anomander smashed Ekolt, dealing 5 damage!
Turn 2
Bird is defending!
Bird is defending!
Ekolt attacked Anomander, dealing 56 damage!
Ekolt cast Divert!
Crokus's action was redirected!
Ekolt attacked Crokus, dealing 62 damage!
Ekolt created a bulwark!
Bird skewered Quick Ben, dealing 0 damage!
Bird skewered Anomander, dealing 0 damage!
Crokus cast Rei Gun on Crokus, dealing 0 damage!
Quick Ben cast Energy Cylinder on Ekolt, dealing 0 damage!
Ekolt attacked Quick Ben, dealing 54 damage!
Ekolt stirred up some birds!
Anomander smashed Ekolt, dealing 5 damage!
Turn 3
Bird is defending!
Bird is defending!
Bird is defending!
Bird is defending!
Ekolt attacked Anomander, dealing 57 damage!
Anomander was defeated!
Ekolt created a bulwark!
Ekolt attacked Crokus, dealing 52 damage!
Crokus was defeated!
Ekolt cast Judgment!
The heavens rain judgment on Quick Ben, dealing 31 damage!
Ekolt cast Divert!
Quick Ben's action was redirected!
Bird skewered Quick Ben, dealing 0 damage!
Bird skewered Quick Ben, dealing 0 damage!
Bird skewered Quick Ben, dealing 0 damage!
Bird skewered Quick Ben, dealing 0 damage!
Quick Ben cast Energy Cylinder on Quick Ben, dealing 77 damage!
Ekolt stirred up some birds!
Turn 4, I was left with Quick Ben with 9 HP and fled.
Now, I did hardly any damage to Ekolit, but its HP was very low when I fled. Does it just have low HP and crazy defensive stats, or were the birds it was spawning causing it significant damage?
Anyway, Judgment seems to be much better now.
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xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out?
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Anyway, Judgment seems to be much better now.
Judgment requires an exertion, which means it's damaging itself every time it casts that.
Ekolt cast Divert! Mastermind's action was redirected!
Kenri vaulted into Mastermind, dealing 167 damage!
Mastermind was killed!
...This doesn't seem right. <___<
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"There's a pony in the shop, but don't buy it. It might do something unfortunate to you." ~from the first Summoner's Seal topic