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Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 1/4/2010 7:05:13 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 331
Level: 43
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Kenri created a bulwark!
Fist attacked Ekolt, dealing 148 damage!
Fist attacked Ekolt, dealing 154 damage!
Fist attacked Ekolt, dealing 155 damage!
Ekolt was killed!


Oh god XD

That was easy!
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 1/4/2010 7:06:27 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 332
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Crokus attacked Ekolt, dealing 0 damage!
Crokus attacked Ekolt, dealing 0 damage!
Crokus attacked Ekolt, dealing 0 damage!
Crokus attacked Ekolt, dealing 0 damage!


Was this Rage or something similar?

Now, I did hardly any damage to Ekolit, but its HP was very low when I fled. Does it just have low HP and crazy defensive stats, or were the birds it was spawning causing it significant damage?

The birds are unrelated. It (a) has low HP and (b) exerts itself on a regular basis, although the exertions aren't that large. I can't give exact numbers because it's created as a boss and consequently they're variable.

...This doesn't seem right. <___<

It doesn't. >_>

Oh god XD

That was easy!


That doesn't seem right.

Also, spells aren't resolving in the right order. Attacking shouldn't come before Divert. >_>
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~ Ogordemir ~
"The sciences have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." ~ H.P Lovecraft, The Call of Cthulhu
Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 1/4/2010 7:06:27 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 333
Level: 43
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[Spoiler for Ekolit's drops, click to show]You've earned 120 gold and 34 experience points.

XD XD XD

**** you Ekolit!
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Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 1/4/2010 7:07:51 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 334
Level: 43
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That doesn't seem right.

I have a LOT of ATK and was using Barrage of Fists. >_>
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xp1337 Posted: 1/4/2010 7:08:07 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 335
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Judgment requires an exertion, which means it's damaging itself every time it casts that.

It appeared to be dropping HP even on non-judgment turns, although I could have been mistaken.

Crokus is defending!
Ekolt tried to cast Judgment, but is exhausted!
Ekolt attacked Crokus, dealing 13 damage!
Ekolt attacked Crokus, dealing 13 damage!
Ekolt attacked Crokus, dealing 14 damage!
Ekolt attacked Crokus, dealing 64 damage!

Where did that last attack come from? It just put its damage through the roof! >_>
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xp1337 Posted: 1/4/2010 7:10:04 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 336
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Was this Rage or something similar?

Barrage of Fists, but since I don't just pour everything into ATK like Kenri and instead try to be somewhat balanced the game seems to give me far more painful results. >_>
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Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 1/4/2010 7:10:17 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 337
Level: 43
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Fist attacked Sorlt, dealing 147 damage!
Fist attacked Sorlt, dealing 141 damage!
Fist attacked Sorlt, dealing 143 damage!
Fist attacked Sorlt, dealing 155 damage!
Fist attacked Sorlt, dealing 157 damage!
Kenri vaulted into Sorlt, dealing 147 damage!
Mastermind used Stamp Down on Sorlt, dealing 135 damage!
Mountstermind attacked Sorlt, dealing 0 damage!
Archer cast Magic Blast! Sorlt was hit with a magical ball of energy, taking 164 damage!
Sorlt was killed!


owned sorlit owned

I love this spell. Please don't nerf it, Ogor, Apprentices have so little. >_>
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xp1337 Posted: 1/4/2010 7:12:00 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 338
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
I'm not so sure the problem is Barrage of Fists, per se. After all, it's utterly useless for me, but then again, it's on my Thief, who doesn't exactly have stellar ATK.

The problem seems to be that just putting everything into ATK breaks the game and putting stats anywhere else just punishes you. >_>
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Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 1/4/2010 7:13:24 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 339
Level: 43
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In fairness.

I had to try that on Sorlit twice, because the first time I only rolled three attacks and then he just killed me. >_>
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 1/4/2010 7:14:18 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 340
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
I have a LOT of ATK and was using Barrage of Fists. >_>

Ah, that works then. I have enough errors to fix as it is. >_>

It appeared to be dropping HP even on non-judgment turns, although I could have been mistaken.

This seems unlikely.

Where did that last attack come from? It just put its damage through the roof! >_>

It knows both basic attacks and Empyreal Cuspidated Bulwark. My guess is it was ECB, as that has a better formula IIRC.

I love this spell. Please don't nerf it, Ogor, Apprentices have so little. >_>

Except for the number of attacks, there's not much to nerf.

The problem seems to be that just putting everything into ATK breaks the game and putting stats anywhere else just punishes you. >_>

True to a point. Disruption like Divert seems like it balances this out.
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~ Ogordemir ~
"The sciences have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." ~ H.P Lovecraft, The Call of Cthulhu
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Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 1/4/2010 7:15:54 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 341
Level: 43
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Except for the number of attacks, there's not much to nerf.

Well.

It could fizzle if you're wielding, say, a bigass club instead of... your fists.

But that would be majorly uncool.
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xp1337 Posted: 1/4/2010 7:16:38 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 342
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Yeah, but defensive stats apparently mean nothing to Sorlit, because I don't last very long against it either, only I can't annihilate it like that. (In fact I'm annoyed that my perfect EXP balance got disrupted by it because it knocked one of my party members out on the turn I killed it because it takes me a few turns to do that)

Ekolit actually seems far far more fair to me, even if I can't really damage it, because it doesn't just wipe me out in two turns by seemingly bypassing any defense I have. >_>
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 1/4/2010 7:22:18 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 343
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
But that would be majorly uncool.

And too complicated to be worth it!

Divert has been fixed. The spell was working correctly; it's just that it was using the name of the selected target instead of the name of the actor whose spell was redirected.

Still clueless about the action order problem.

The experience formula has been changed to have the multiplier = 1 until I figure out how this should all work.
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~ Ogordemir ~
"The sciences have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." ~ H.P Lovecraft, The Call of Cthulhu
Ogordemir99 Posted: 1/4/2010 7:28:17 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 344
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Yeah, but defensive stats apparently mean nothing to Sorlit, because I don't last very long against it either, only I can't annihilate it like that. (In fact I'm annoyed that my perfect EXP balance got disrupted by it because it knocked one of my party members out on the turn I killed it because it takes me a few turns to do that)

Sorlit knows:

Skewer: ATK - .75 * DEF (or 1.1 * DEF if the character is defending) plus 10.
Smash: Regular attack if the target is defending, crazy otherwise.
Berserk: Slightly worse than Smash.
Rage: Lots of basic attacks, like Skewer.
Stamp Down: .1 * DEF.

So yeah, Sorlit doesn't give a shit about your DEF.
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~ Ogordemir ~
"The sciences have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." ~ H.P Lovecraft, The Call of Cthulhu
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Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 1/4/2010 7:31:18 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 345
Level: 43
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So yeah, Sorlit doesn't give a shit about your DEF.

I noticed this after I bought that Super Special Awesome Shield of Incredible Amazing Wonderfulness that cost 8000 gold and gave +30 DEF and +30 MDEF and Sorlit just killed my Horseman/Cleric immediately anyway. <_<
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Scorpion 316 Posted: 1/4/2010 7:31:53 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 346
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
You've earned 72 gold and 57 experience points.

From just three sharks. God I love this EXP now for my low levels. <_<
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"Enough is enough! I have had it with these monkey-fighting snakes on this Monday-to-Friday plane!" - TV Edited Snakes on a Plane
Ogordemir99 Posted: 1/4/2010 7:32:50 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 347
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
I noticed this after I bought that Super Special Awesome Shield of Incredible Amazing Wonderfulness that cost 8000 gold and gave 30 DEF and 30 MDEF and Sorlit just killed my Horseman/Cleric immediately anyway. <_<

It's just like PvP!

From just three sharks. God I love this EXP now for my low levels. <_<

Yeah, this isn't degenerate at all.
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~ Ogordemir ~
"The sciences have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." ~ H.P Lovecraft, The Call of Cthulhu
Scorpion 316 Posted: 1/4/2010 7:33:42 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 348
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Yeah, this isn't degenerate at all.

I just got 100+ EXP from a Father Trout combo. Of course not. >_>
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xp1337 Posted: 1/4/2010 7:34:18 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 349
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Wait, what?

*Goes to check out the EXP*
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Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 1/4/2010 7:34:32 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 350
Level: 43
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On a side note

xp has just brought it to my attention that Assassins have inherited all the Shinobi equipment, because Shinobi used to be called Assassins.

Now, I don't recommend fixing this immediately because xp's characters are already horribly screwed equipment-wise, but at some point... >_>
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xp1337 Posted: 1/4/2010 7:35:25 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 351
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
You've earned 113 gold and 121 experience points.

Haha oh wow.

And there were two bass in this battle.

Okay, yeah, this could be a problem. (Well, I for one like it, but yeah...)
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 1/4/2010 7:35:26 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 352
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
I noticed the Assassin thing, but uh, I think it's OK. >_>
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~ Ogordemir ~
"The sciences have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." ~ H.P Lovecraft, The Call of Cthulhu
xp1337 Posted: 1/4/2010 7:38:17 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 353
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
I noticed the Assassin thing, but uh, I think it's OK. >_>

Honestly, the equipment for all my classes (counting all tiers) outside like Weaver is so laughably non-existent that keeping it that way as a kind-of-subtle nerf by giving my Third Tier Class Second Tier Equipment is hilarious.

I mean, it seems a great deal of it is my fault given the classes I took, but the majority of my equipment is the generic no class stuff I think. >_>
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 1/4/2010 7:39:08 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 354
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Honestly, the equipment for all my classes (counting all tiers) outside like Weaver is so laughably non-existent that keeping it that way as a kind-of-subtle nerf by giving my Third Tier Class Second Tier Equipment is hilarious.

XD

Here, I'll make some Magus stuff. >_>
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~ Ogordemir ~
"The sciences have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." ~ H.P Lovecraft, The Call of Cthulhu
Scorpion 316 Posted: 1/4/2010 7:40:46 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 355
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Here, I'll make some Magus stuff. >_>

Give Occultists some stuff while you're at it. <_< My Occultist is still being a Cleric and this saddens me.
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"Enough is enough! I have had it with these monkey-fighting snakes on this Monday-to-Friday plane!" - TV Edited Snakes on a Plane
Ogordemir99 Posted: 1/4/2010 7:41:46 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 356
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
My Occultist is still being a Cleric and this saddens me.

But I don't quite know what to do with Occultists yet. >_>
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~ Ogordemir ~
"The sciences have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." ~ H.P Lovecraft, The Call of Cthulhu
Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 1/4/2010 7:42:13 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 357
Level: 43
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Clerics have some of the best equipment in the game. <_<

Now Thieves... lol.
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xp1337 Posted: 1/4/2010 7:43:00 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 358
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Here, I'll make some Magus stuff. >_>

In keeping with the hilarity, the Magus is the one character of mine who has halfway decent equipment anyway. >_>

I don't really mind too much though so long as I stay away from Sorlit and Ekolit... and talking to Kenri and seeing that he has DEF and MDEF stats that sometimes more than double mine when I am putting a decent amount of attention into them and he says he's largely ignored them. >_>

Otherwise waiting for equipment to start coming in for the classes I have doesn't bother me.
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Scorpion 316 Posted: 1/4/2010 7:43:37 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 359
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
I mainly meant spells, not equipment. >_> He basically physically attacks people for like, 10 damage when he's not Blessing someone for 25 HP. <_<

Just add the Lightbulb spell and I'll at least be amused.

If you can even code that.

Or just add the DEF thing using Kenri's name for it and I'll waste my time killing Trout with it.

:(
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 1/4/2010 7:44:51 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 360
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
In keeping with the hilarity, the Magus is the one character of mine who has halfway decent equipment anyway. >_>

I like them though.

Fuck yeah, Magus.
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~ Ogordemir ~
"The sciences have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." ~ H.P Lovecraft, The Call of Cthulhu
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