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The Tiger Posted: 8/25/2006 12:43:09 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 031
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Name: Radon Fume
Casting Cost: 15
Buying Cost: 300
Level: 5
Class: Archer
Targets: Anyone in the area
Effect: -50% HP if your HP>opponents HP, else -yourHP/oppHP% HP

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Ogordemir99 Posted: 8/25/2006 1:03:22 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 032
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Added Wooden Bow, Steel Bow, and Double Shot (Archer).
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~ Ogordemir ~
Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.
"Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde
xp1337 Posted: 8/25/2006 1:05:13 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 033
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
I support all of Tiger's item ideas.

This has nothing to do with the fact that my character is an Archer. What a ridiculous notion!
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 8/25/2006 1:12:07 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 034
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
I'm too tired to come up with the appropriate witty retort to that, so I'll let it pass.

Meanwhile, there havem't been any suggestions for the magical classes. No love for Spellbinders? >_>
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~ Ogordemir ~
Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.
"Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde
Message last edited by Silvas on 8/24/2006 at 09:18:27 PM
Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 8/25/2006 1:46:31 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 035
Level: 43
Editor
I hate using magic in 90% of all games.

The only exception I can think of is the Fire Emblem series.

Nevertheless...

Name: Arctic Blast
Buying cost: 1
Casting cost: 1
Level: 1
Class: Spiremage
Target: One enemy
Effect: 5% chance of instantly killing the opponent. Else, kills user. Always goes last.

Now bear my Arctic Blast!
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"I've seen her crying before. I heard the tortured crying of her heart. And to me... she sounded so lovable."

END OF [TAKE] - August, 2006
The Tiger Posted: 8/25/2006 1:54:29 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 036
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
EDIT:

Name: Radon Fume
Casting Cost: 25
Buying Cost: 300
Level: 5
Class: Archer
Targets: Anyone in the area
Effect: -50% HP if your HP>opponents HP, else -yourHP/oppHP% HP
If used in dungeon - -10 HP for you


Name: Uranium-tipped arrows
Casting Cost: 25
Buying Cost: 500
Level: 7
Class: Archer
Targets: Specific monster
Effect: -60% HP, -30% defense
If used in a water environment: -20% HP, -5% defense


Name: Hydrogen Gas Fog
Casting Cost: 20
Buying Cost: 400
Level: 10
Class: Archer
Targets: Anyone in the area
Effect: -20% HP, -80% defense
If used in fire environment, you die
If used in static, every monster dies


Name: Benzene Shower
Casting Cost: 70
Buying Cost: 700
Level: 15
Class: Archer
Targets: Anyone in the area
Effect: Instant kill to all monsters in the area
If used in water or fire, no effect

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Ogordemir99 Posted: 8/25/2006 1:54:40 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 037
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Interesting name. Otherwise no. >_>

(This was to Kenri.)
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~ Ogordemir ~
Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.
"Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde
Message last edited by Silvas on 8/24/2006 at 09:55:09 PM
Ogordemir99 Posted: 8/25/2006 1:56:17 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 038
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Pavel, your spells are retardedly powerful.
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~ Ogordemir ~
Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.
"Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde
xp1337 Posted: 8/25/2006 3:25:18 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 039
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
This is what Kenri was refering to. Listen to this:

http://shiningforceacting.ytmnd.com/
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"This is the light of my soul, a sacred territory upon which no one may intrude." - Kaworu, NGE.
Scorpion 316 Posted: 8/25/2006 10:21:51 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 040
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
I'd make spells.. but for something like this I suck at them.

I can give you names though at which point you can decide classes and costs!

Meteor Swarm (Should be an ultimate spell that can hit everything on field except for you and allies.)

Deep Freeze

Explosion

Burning Efreet

Thunder Flare (Fire/Lightning element if possible to do that.. Otherwise, it's mostly lightning.)

Faerie Light (Bathes party in healing glow.)

Power Dance (Boost attack of whole party)

Star Ocean spells go! >_>;
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"I'm weak to the finish 'cause AIDs beats me spinach, I'm Popeye the Dying Man.. *toot, toot, cough* - Popeye Drawn Together
Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 8/25/2006 9:27:25 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 041
Level: 43
Editor
Hey, I can do that (that being steal names of spells from RPGs).

Demons of Darkness
Shining Seraph
Distorting Winds
Lingering Time
Sacred Spring
Hellfire
Fangs of Light
Crystal Shot

Trinity Spark
Quake Flash
Chaotic Flare
Serene Inferno
Nightmare Chill
Glacial Shadow
DISARESTA!

Pirate's Wrath
Alpha Storm
Cutlass Fury
Omega Cyclone
Lambda Burst
Gunslinger
The Claudia
Prophecy
The Blue Rogues
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"I've seen her crying before. I heard the tortured crying of her heart. And to me... she sounded so lovable."

END OF [TAKE] - August, 2006
Ogordemir99 Posted: 8/26/2006 12:20:52 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 042
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
While reading Kenri's list I had a few WTF moments:

Demons of Darkness
Shining Seraph


Unless these are summons, how in hell are these spells? Furthermore, I'd like to know what other kinds of Demons there are. Demons of Sinless Ecstasy, perhaps?

Fangs of Light

So... this spell converts your teeth to photons?

DISARESTA!

I'm assuming this is a made-up word that makes sense in the context of the game.

Cutlass Fury

"My sword is getting really mad at you."

Lambda Burst

OK: Omega Cyclone I could imagine, but Lambda Burst? How can a "burst" refer to a letter of the Greek alphabet, much less something as unburstlike as a little hooked tent? Furthermore, though Omega Cyclone could be virtually any kind of cyclone, as "cyclone" isn't verblike, the verb-to-noun-like properties of burst and traditional usage compell one to imagine this spell actually causes lambdas to burst (otherwise we're forced to use lambda as some sort of degree classifier, leaving us with imagining a disembodied burst of nothingness). Unless this was the intended effect, ew.

Gunslinger

I've heard of titles used for naming spells/events/whatever in TCG's, but this I believe is the first time I've seen something like a class name as a spell name in an RPG.

The Claudia

This is as bizarre as Gunslinger.

The Blue Rogues

Likewise, this is in the same WTF category as Demons and Seraph, except moreso, as might be illustrated with the following sentence: "I cast The Blue Rogues... at your face!" Et cetera.
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~ Ogordemir ~
Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.
"Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde
Scorpion 316 Posted: 8/26/2006 12:31:31 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 043
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Cutlass Fury was from Skies of Arcadia if I'm not mistaken..

Gunslinger gave me a WTF moment as well, along with The Claudia and The Blue Rogues..

Seriously, Demons of Darkness is faggotry at it's best. Like Ogor said, what other demons are there?
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"I'm weak to the finish 'cause AIDs beats me spinach, I'm Popeye the Dying Man.. *toot, toot, cough* - Popeye Drawn Together
Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 8/26/2006 1:08:49 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 044
Level: 43
Editor
Unless these are summons, how in hell are these spells? Furthermore, I'd like to know what other kinds of Demons there are. Demons of Sinless Ecstasy, perhaps?

They're "spirit link spells", the strongest spells in Baten Kaitos. I forget what they do exactly, but IIRC they're basically spells that summon the DoD/SS to attack once, then they disappear. So they're just normal spells with the flavor of a summon, or something.

So... this spell converts your teeth to photons?

Kalas (main character of Baten Kaitos) uses two swords that look a bit like teeth (canines, specifically). This spell infuses them with holy light or something and attacks the enemy for a drain effect.

I'm assuming this is a made-up word that makes sense in the context of the game.

No, it's just a made-up word.

"My sword is getting really mad at you."

Fury involving a cutlass.

OK: Omega Cyclone I could imagine, but Lambda Burst? How can a "burst" refer to a letter of the Greek alphabet, much less something as unburstlike as a little hooked tent? Furthermore, though Omega Cyclone could be virtually any kind of cyclone, as "cyclone" isn't verblike, the verb-to-noun-like properties of burst and traditional usage compell one to imagine this spell actually causes lambdas to burst (otherwise we're forced to use lambda as some sort of degree classifier, leaving us with imagining a disembodied burst of nothingness). Unless this was the intended effect, ew.

All of Aika's spells use Greek letters - Alpha Storm, Delta Shield, Lambda Burst, Omega Cyclone. *shrugs*

I've heard of titles used for naming spells/events/whatever in TCG's, but this I believe is the first time I've seen something like a class name as a spell name in an RPG.

Gilder draws his two handguns and fires 12 times (six with each). Hence, he becomes a Gunslinger. *shrug*

This is as bizarre as Gunslinger.

The Claudia is the name of Gilder's airship, this spell fires its cannons at the opponent.

Likewise, this is in the same WTF category as Demons and Seraph, except moreso, as might be illustrated with the following sentence: "I cast The Blue Rogues... at your face!" Et cetera.

No, it's more like, "Blue Rogues... ASSEMBLE!"

And then the opponent gets killed by pirates. Thousands of them.
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"I've seen her crying before. I heard the tortured crying of her heart. And to me... she sounded so lovable."

END OF [TAKE] - August, 2006
Ogordemir99 Posted: 8/26/2006 3:14:06 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 045
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Ninjas are cooler.
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~ Ogordemir ~
Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.
"Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde
The Tiger Posted: 8/26/2006 3:41:37 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 046
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
archers > ninjas

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Scorpion 316 Posted: 8/26/2006 5:32:04 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 047
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
No way.

Ninjas >>>>>>>> Archers.

Ninjas can fight from a distance and up close. Wussy archers hide in the back of the line.
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"I'm weak to the finish 'cause AIDs beats me spinach, I'm Popeye the Dying Man.. *toot, toot, cough* - Popeye Drawn Together
Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 8/26/2006 9:05:55 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 048
Level: 43
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Actually, ninja (no 's') can't fight worth crap. Hence why they use poisons and such. >_>

Which is why pirates are far superior. Pirates just bash faces while ninja are busy hiding in shadows and committing ritual suicide.
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"I've seen her crying before. I heard the tortured crying of her heart. And to me... she sounded so lovable."

END OF [TAKE] - August, 2006
Scorpion 316 Posted: 8/26/2006 11:12:43 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 049
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
I can say Ninjas if I want. >_>

Anyway, yes, a Ninja CAN fight. They prefer not to however, but are trained extensively in several forms of combat.
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"I'm weak to the finish 'cause AIDs beats me spinach, I'm Popeye the Dying Man.. *toot, toot, cough* - Popeye Drawn Together
Ogordemir99 Posted: 8/26/2006 11:37:23 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 050
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
ninja (no 's')

When I be speakin' Jap'nese, I'll be sayin' ninja. Oth'wise, I be stickin' to dem esses.
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~ Ogordemir ~
Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.
"Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde
Link Dude Posted: 8/26/2006 11:44:35 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 051
Level: 7
Provisional
All I know is, Ninjas have sucky weapons, or should I say weapon in the game, as with Warrior.
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Your mother taught me how! -Kurt Angle
Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 8/27/2006 12:03:59 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 052
Level: 43
Editor
Metal Club
700
Level 4
Warrior
+15 ATK, +15 DEF

NOT ANYMORE MIRITE? <_<
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"I've seen her crying before. I heard the tortured crying of her heart. And to me... she sounded so lovable."

END OF [TAKE] - August, 2006
Ogordemir99 Posted: 8/27/2006 12:05:31 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 053
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
More like +30 ATK and level not 4.

EDIT: Actually, ATK +25 and level 6.
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~ Ogordemir ~
Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.
"Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde
Message last edited by Silvas on 8/26/2006 at 08:08:44 PM
Ogordemir99 Posted: 8/27/2006 12:21:56 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 054
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Also, in the interest of balance, I have changed the game such that the original three elements - the ones I suggested would be available to everyone - are limited to the offensive enlightened/magic classes, Weaver and Spellbinder. This currently affects the following spells:

- Weaver or Spellbinder -

* Douse
* Shock
* Blaze
* Pillar Rain
* Energy Cylinder
* Hellfire

- Spellbinder Only -

* Submerge
* Static
* Blaze

The reason for this is, given the lack of limitations on stat distributions, it was previously possible to, say, channel all of an Archer's stat points into Magic Attack and SP, then rely on weapons and armor for attack and defense boosts while taking advantage of the MA and SP in the form of hideous damage. This puts magic classes at a disadvantage, as they aren't capable of getting that physical boost from weapons and armor.

This won't change won't affect characters that already know these spells, as I'm too lazy to go delete them.
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~ Ogordemir ~
Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.
"Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde
Message last edited by Silvas on 8/26/2006 at 08:23:24 PM
Scorpion 316 Posted: 8/27/2006 12:51:09 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 055
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
That sounds fair enough. >_> However, some healing spells might be nice too. There's even a good way to balance it really, which I could explain later..when I stop feeling lazy.
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"I'm weak to the finish 'cause AIDs beats me spinach, I'm Popeye the Dying Man.. *toot, toot, cough* - Popeye Drawn Together
Ogordemir99 Posted: 8/27/2006 12:58:50 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 056
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
There are ways to balance things, but unless they can be achieved within the current system, I'm too lazy to implement them. >_>

Meanwhile, I'll add consumable items in place of healing spells for non-Cleric-y classes. For now, it's rather prudent to keep a Cleric around. I'm going to be adding another ally soon, so that should be possible.
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~ Ogordemir ~
Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.
"Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde
Scorpion 316 Posted: 8/27/2006 1:32:02 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 057
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Well the balance can be achieved. Assuming you use three levels of healing. Minor, Intermediate, and Ultimate (Not exactly full, but a good bit. >_>) plus the addition of a spell for Clerics that can heal others.
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"I'm weak to the finish 'cause AIDs beats me spinach, I'm Popeye the Dying Man.. *toot, toot, cough* - Popeye Drawn Together
Ogordemir99 Posted: 8/27/2006 1:36:27 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 058
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Non-Clerics wouldn't get past Minor. It would also only be in flavor for Archers and Soldiers, in my opinion. But it's possible.
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~ Ogordemir ~
Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.
"Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde
Link Dude Posted: 8/27/2006 2:09:41 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 059
Level: 7
Provisional
Well, in anycase, Ninjas still have no good weapons.
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You suck! -Crowd
Your mother taught me how! -Kurt Angle
Scorpion 316 Posted: 8/27/2006 2:33:46 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 060
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Well, then there's no need for an intermediate. I had the intermediate there for semi spell casting classes, that way everyone could still have a healing yet semi spell using ones could have a slighty better healing, reserving Ultimate to Clerics. However, Warrior and it's advancements would be confined to the Minor.
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"I'm weak to the finish 'cause AIDs beats me spinach, I'm Popeye the Dying Man.. *toot, toot, cough* - Popeye Drawn Together
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