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| The Tiger | Posted: 8/25/2006 12:43:09 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 031 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Name: Radon Fume Casting Cost: 15 Buying Cost: 300 Level: 5 Class: Archer Targets: Anyone in the area Effect: -50% HP if your HP>opponents HP, else -yourHP/oppHP% HP ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The "No" "WTF?" "Dumbass" "No" "You're a moron" and "No" after this post are assumed. This relieves you of the duty to say them... |
| Ogordemir99 | Posted: 8/25/2006 1:03:22 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 032 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Added Wooden Bow, Steel Bow, and Double Shot (Archer). ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt. "Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde |
| xp1337 | Posted: 8/25/2006 1:05:13 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 033 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | I support all of Tiger's item ideas. This has nothing to do with the fact that my character is an Archer. What a ridiculous notion! --- xp1337: Your former local puppet admin. "This is the light of my soul, a sacred territory upon which no one may intrude." - Kaworu, NGE. |
| Ogordemir99 | Posted: 8/25/2006 1:12:07 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 034 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | I'm too tired to come up with the appropriate witty retort to that, so I'll let it pass. Meanwhile, there havem't been any suggestions for the magical classes. No love for Spellbinders? >_> ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt. "Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde Message last edited by Silvas on 8/24/2006 at 09:18:27 PM |
| Kenri of the Yuri | Posted: 8/25/2006 1:46:31 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 035 |
| Level: 43 Editor | I hate using magic in 90% of all games. The only exception I can think of is the Fire Emblem series. Nevertheless... Name: Arctic Blast Buying cost: 1 Casting cost: 1 Level: 1 Class: Spiremage Target: One enemy Effect: 5% chance of instantly killing the opponent. Else, kills user. Always goes last. Now bear my Arctic Blast! --- "I've seen her crying before. I heard the tortured crying of her heart. And to me... she sounded so lovable." END OF [TAKE] - August, 2006 |
| The Tiger | Posted: 8/25/2006 1:54:29 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 036 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | EDIT: Name: Radon Fume Casting Cost: 25 Buying Cost: 300 Level: 5 Class: Archer Targets: Anyone in the area Effect: -50% HP if your HP>opponents HP, else -yourHP/oppHP% HP If used in dungeon - -10 HP for you Name: Uranium-tipped arrows Casting Cost: 25 Buying Cost: 500 Level: 7 Class: Archer Targets: Specific monster Effect: -60% HP, -30% defense If used in a water environment: -20% HP, -5% defense Name: Hydrogen Gas Fog Casting Cost: 20 Buying Cost: 400 Level: 10 Class: Archer Targets: Anyone in the area Effect: -20% HP, -80% defense If used in fire environment, you die If used in static, every monster dies Name: Benzene Shower Casting Cost: 70 Buying Cost: 700 Level: 15 Class: Archer Targets: Anyone in the area Effect: Instant kill to all monsters in the area If used in water or fire, no effect ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The "No" "WTF?" "Dumbass" "No" "You're a moron" and "No" after this post are assumed. This relieves you of the duty to say them... |
| Ogordemir99 | Posted: 8/25/2006 1:54:40 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 037 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Interesting name. Otherwise no. >_> (This was to Kenri.) ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt. "Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde Message last edited by Silvas on 8/24/2006 at 09:55:09 PM |
| Ogordemir99 | Posted: 8/25/2006 1:56:17 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 038 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Pavel, your spells are retardedly powerful. ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt. "Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde |
| xp1337 | Posted: 8/25/2006 3:25:18 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 039 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | This is what Kenri was refering to. Listen to this: http://shiningforceacting.ytmnd.com/ --- xp1337: Your former local puppet admin. "This is the light of my soul, a sacred territory upon which no one may intrude." - Kaworu, NGE. |
| Scorpion 316 | Posted: 8/25/2006 10:21:51 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 040 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | I'd make spells.. but for something like this I suck at them. I can give you names though at which point you can decide classes and costs! Meteor Swarm (Should be an ultimate spell that can hit everything on field except for you and allies.) Deep Freeze Explosion Burning Efreet Thunder Flare (Fire/Lightning element if possible to do that.. Otherwise, it's mostly lightning.) Faerie Light (Bathes party in healing glow.) Power Dance (Boost attack of whole party) Star Ocean spells go! >_>; +++ "I'm weak to the finish 'cause AIDs beats me spinach, I'm Popeye the Dying Man.. *toot, toot, cough* - Popeye Drawn Together |
| Kenri of the Yuri | Posted: 8/25/2006 9:27:25 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 041 |
| Level: 43 Editor | Hey, I can do that (that being steal names of spells from RPGs). Demons of Darkness Shining Seraph Distorting Winds Lingering Time Sacred Spring Hellfire Fangs of Light Crystal Shot Trinity Spark Quake Flash Chaotic Flare Serene Inferno Nightmare Chill Glacial Shadow DISARESTA! Pirate's Wrath Alpha Storm Cutlass Fury Omega Cyclone Lambda Burst Gunslinger The Claudia Prophecy The Blue Rogues --- "I've seen her crying before. I heard the tortured crying of her heart. And to me... she sounded so lovable." END OF [TAKE] - August, 2006 |
| Ogordemir99 | Posted: 8/26/2006 12:20:52 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 042 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | While reading Kenri's list I had a few WTF moments: Demons of Darkness Shining Seraph Unless these are summons, how in hell are these spells? Furthermore, I'd like to know what other kinds of Demons there are. Demons of Sinless Ecstasy, perhaps? Fangs of Light So... this spell converts your teeth to photons? DISARESTA! I'm assuming this is a made-up word that makes sense in the context of the game. Cutlass Fury "My sword is getting really mad at you." Lambda Burst OK: Omega Cyclone I could imagine, but Lambda Burst? How can a "burst" refer to a letter of the Greek alphabet, much less something as unburstlike as a little hooked tent? Furthermore, though Omega Cyclone could be virtually any kind of cyclone, as "cyclone" isn't verblike, the verb-to-noun-like properties of burst and traditional usage compell one to imagine this spell actually causes lambdas to burst (otherwise we're forced to use lambda as some sort of degree classifier, leaving us with imagining a disembodied burst of nothingness). Unless this was the intended effect, ew. Gunslinger I've heard of titles used for naming spells/events/whatever in TCG's, but this I believe is the first time I've seen something like a class name as a spell name in an RPG. The Claudia This is as bizarre as Gunslinger. The Blue Rogues Likewise, this is in the same WTF category as Demons and Seraph, except moreso, as might be illustrated with the following sentence: "I cast The Blue Rogues... at your face!" Et cetera. ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt. "Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde |
| Scorpion 316 | Posted: 8/26/2006 12:31:31 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 043 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Cutlass Fury was from Skies of Arcadia if I'm not mistaken.. Gunslinger gave me a WTF moment as well, along with The Claudia and The Blue Rogues.. Seriously, Demons of Darkness is faggotry at it's best. Like Ogor said, what other demons are there? +++ "I'm weak to the finish 'cause AIDs beats me spinach, I'm Popeye the Dying Man.. *toot, toot, cough* - Popeye Drawn Together |
| Kenri of the Yuri | Posted: 8/26/2006 1:08:49 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 044 |
| Level: 43 Editor | Unless these are summons, how in hell are these spells? Furthermore, I'd like to know what other kinds of Demons there are. Demons of Sinless Ecstasy, perhaps? They're "spirit link spells", the strongest spells in Baten Kaitos. I forget what they do exactly, but IIRC they're basically spells that summon the DoD/SS to attack once, then they disappear. So they're just normal spells with the flavor of a summon, or something. So... this spell converts your teeth to photons? Kalas (main character of Baten Kaitos) uses two swords that look a bit like teeth (canines, specifically). This spell infuses them with holy light or something and attacks the enemy for a drain effect. I'm assuming this is a made-up word that makes sense in the context of the game. No, it's just a made-up word. "My sword is getting really mad at you." Fury involving a cutlass. OK: Omega Cyclone I could imagine, but Lambda Burst? How can a "burst" refer to a letter of the Greek alphabet, much less something as unburstlike as a little hooked tent? Furthermore, though Omega Cyclone could be virtually any kind of cyclone, as "cyclone" isn't verblike, the verb-to-noun-like properties of burst and traditional usage compell one to imagine this spell actually causes lambdas to burst (otherwise we're forced to use lambda as some sort of degree classifier, leaving us with imagining a disembodied burst of nothingness). Unless this was the intended effect, ew. All of Aika's spells use Greek letters - Alpha Storm, Delta Shield, Lambda Burst, Omega Cyclone. *shrugs* I've heard of titles used for naming spells/events/whatever in TCG's, but this I believe is the first time I've seen something like a class name as a spell name in an RPG. Gilder draws his two handguns and fires 12 times (six with each). Hence, he becomes a Gunslinger. *shrug* This is as bizarre as Gunslinger. The Claudia is the name of Gilder's airship, this spell fires its cannons at the opponent. Likewise, this is in the same WTF category as Demons and Seraph, except moreso, as might be illustrated with the following sentence: "I cast The Blue Rogues... at your face!" Et cetera. No, it's more like, "Blue Rogues... ASSEMBLE!" And then the opponent gets killed by pirates. Thousands of them. --- "I've seen her crying before. I heard the tortured crying of her heart. And to me... she sounded so lovable." END OF [TAKE] - August, 2006 |
| Ogordemir99 | Posted: 8/26/2006 3:14:06 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 045 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Ninjas are cooler. ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt. "Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde |
| The Tiger | Posted: 8/26/2006 3:41:37 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 046 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | archers > ninjas ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The "No" "WTF?" "Dumbass" "No" "You're a moron" and "No" after this post are assumed. This relieves you of the duty to say them... |
| Scorpion 316 | Posted: 8/26/2006 5:32:04 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 047 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | No way. Ninjas >>>>>>>> Archers. Ninjas can fight from a distance and up close. Wussy archers hide in the back of the line. +++ "I'm weak to the finish 'cause AIDs beats me spinach, I'm Popeye the Dying Man.. *toot, toot, cough* - Popeye Drawn Together |
| Kenri of the Yuri | Posted: 8/26/2006 9:05:55 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 048 |
| Level: 43 Editor | Actually, ninja (no 's') can't fight worth crap. Hence why they use poisons and such. >_> Which is why pirates are far superior. Pirates just bash faces while ninja are busy hiding in shadows and committing ritual suicide. --- "I've seen her crying before. I heard the tortured crying of her heart. And to me... she sounded so lovable." END OF [TAKE] - August, 2006 |
| Scorpion 316 | Posted: 8/26/2006 11:12:43 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 049 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | I can say Ninjas if I want. >_> Anyway, yes, a Ninja CAN fight. They prefer not to however, but are trained extensively in several forms of combat. +++ "I'm weak to the finish 'cause AIDs beats me spinach, I'm Popeye the Dying Man.. *toot, toot, cough* - Popeye Drawn Together |
| Ogordemir99 | Posted: 8/26/2006 11:37:23 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 050 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | ninja (no 's') When I be speakin' Jap'nese, I'll be sayin' ninja. Oth'wise, I be stickin' to dem esses. ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt. "Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde |
| Link Dude | Posted: 8/26/2006 11:44:35 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 051 |
| Level: 7 Provisional | All I know is, Ninjas have sucky weapons, or should I say weapon in the game, as with Warrior. --- You suck! -Crowd Your mother taught me how! -Kurt Angle |
| Kenri of the Yuri | Posted: 8/27/2006 12:03:59 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 052 |
| Level: 43 Editor | Metal Club 700 Level 4 Warrior +15 ATK, +15 DEF NOT ANYMORE MIRITE? <_< --- "I've seen her crying before. I heard the tortured crying of her heart. And to me... she sounded so lovable." END OF [TAKE] - August, 2006 |
| Ogordemir99 | Posted: 8/27/2006 12:05:31 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 053 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | More like +30 ATK and level not 4. EDIT: Actually, ATK +25 and level 6. ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt. "Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde Message last edited by Silvas on 8/26/2006 at 08:08:44 PM |
| Ogordemir99 | Posted: 8/27/2006 12:21:56 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 054 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Also, in the interest of balance, I have changed the game such that the original three elements - the ones I suggested would be available to everyone - are limited to the offensive enlightened/magic classes, Weaver and Spellbinder. This currently affects the following spells: - Weaver or Spellbinder - * Douse * Shock * Blaze * Pillar Rain * Energy Cylinder * Hellfire - Spellbinder Only - * Submerge * Static * Blaze The reason for this is, given the lack of limitations on stat distributions, it was previously possible to, say, channel all of an Archer's stat points into Magic Attack and SP, then rely on weapons and armor for attack and defense boosts while taking advantage of the MA and SP in the form of hideous damage. This puts magic classes at a disadvantage, as they aren't capable of getting that physical boost from weapons and armor. This won't change won't affect characters that already know these spells, as I'm too lazy to go delete them. ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt. "Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde Message last edited by Silvas on 8/26/2006 at 08:23:24 PM |
| Scorpion 316 | Posted: 8/27/2006 12:51:09 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 055 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | That sounds fair enough. >_> However, some healing spells might be nice too. There's even a good way to balance it really, which I could explain later..when I stop feeling lazy. +++ "I'm weak to the finish 'cause AIDs beats me spinach, I'm Popeye the Dying Man.. *toot, toot, cough* - Popeye Drawn Together |
| Ogordemir99 | Posted: 8/27/2006 12:58:50 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 056 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | There are ways to balance things, but unless they can be achieved within the current system, I'm too lazy to implement them. >_> Meanwhile, I'll add consumable items in place of healing spells for non-Cleric-y classes. For now, it's rather prudent to keep a Cleric around. I'm going to be adding another ally soon, so that should be possible. ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt. "Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde |
| Scorpion 316 | Posted: 8/27/2006 1:32:02 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 057 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Well the balance can be achieved. Assuming you use three levels of healing. Minor, Intermediate, and Ultimate (Not exactly full, but a good bit. >_>) plus the addition of a spell for Clerics that can heal others. +++ "I'm weak to the finish 'cause AIDs beats me spinach, I'm Popeye the Dying Man.. *toot, toot, cough* - Popeye Drawn Together |
| Ogordemir99 | Posted: 8/27/2006 1:36:27 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 058 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Non-Clerics wouldn't get past Minor. It would also only be in flavor for Archers and Soldiers, in my opinion. But it's possible. ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt. "Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde |
| Link Dude | Posted: 8/27/2006 2:09:41 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 059 |
| Level: 7 Provisional | Well, in anycase, Ninjas still have no good weapons. --- You suck! -Crowd Your mother taught me how! -Kurt Angle |
| Scorpion 316 | Posted: 8/27/2006 2:33:46 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 060 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Well, then there's no need for an intermediate. I had the intermediate there for semi spell casting classes, that way everyone could still have a healing yet semi spell using ones could have a slighty better healing, reserving Ultimate to Clerics. However, Warrior and it's advancements would be confined to the Minor. +++ "I'm weak to the finish 'cause AIDs beats me spinach, I'm Popeye the Dying Man.. *toot, toot, cough* - Popeye Drawn Together |
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