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As for that glitch you're talking about, switch browsers for SS if you want to, uh, do both.
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Message last edited by Silvas on 5/9/2007 at 11:18:27 AM
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You could possibly fight Umbris, though. Ditch some good characters and bring in the chaff to mess up his stats.
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Wait, what's this combo you're talking about? I just used normal attacks, and they did oodles of damage. <_<
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30BS does, say, 1000 damage.
Somebody casts necrosis.
The old Necrosis would reduce the targets stats by 1000 each in this situation. That's the combo I was talking about. Otherwise at least the target has some chance at defending itself. >_>
ditch the good players an bring in weak ones?
Ditch your worst ones and bring in the throwaways. Umbris's stats are based on averages, so if you have some high stats coupled with some low stats, it'll end up somewhere in the middle where it's below your best characters.
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Kind of pointless, though, considering the way Necrosis used to work, you could up your Master's speed and make him go first, casting Necrosis on an enemy with full health, and even normal attacks will literally do 30k damage.
Well, it was 30k to Whales and Marutin, more like 15k to Manticore, and <10k to Poseidon.
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Oh. That was a glitch, then, because on an enemy with full health it should have done nothing.
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I'd have told you, but then I convinced myself that it actually was just THAT good. Considering spells like Rage can be used by low level first classes, a Master spell being that good wasn't too implausible. <_<
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Necrosis was both hideously overpowered and without its original intent - and I don't think Masters even needed that type of, let's say, cheese. SS and PtE make them good enough to use already.
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The bad part is you can't exchange your main character for anyone else, so you'll end up with two level 1 characters max.
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Warriors - Attack and nothing else.
Clerics - Healing and AoE/balance effects.
Summoners - guess lole
Soldiers - High defense and attack, awful speed.
Spellbinders - Enchantment lovers.
Weavers - High magic attack, nothing else really.
Ninja - Through-the-roof speed, bad everything else.
Spiremages - The disruptive class.
Pikemen - Balanced class. Average everything.
Horsemen - High attack, best mounts.
Archers - Good at multiple attacks, mildly disruptive.
Apprentices - Horrible equipment, potentially overpowered spells.
Bards - Primarily support.
Tamers - Currently useless. Strange class altogether. >_>
EDIT: Liches have been capable of learning Cleric and Steward spells (except Protect) since Monday, though I forgot to mention this in the update. Good thing we had this discussion; it reminded me.
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Warriors - Really, really powerful attack spells (Berserk, Rage). Attack buffs. Great class altogether, and can become Berserkers.
Clerics - Primarily healing and support. Also has Judgment, which is fairly useful, but takes a long time to get. Not as great as you'd think, though.
Summoners - Pretty bad currently. Summons don't level up AFAIK, so even Summon Kraken is fairly useless except as a decoy.
Soldiers - High defense and attack, awful speed. Has one of the best spells in the game (Smash).
Spellbinders - I haven't played one of these, so I can't comment. >_>
Weavers - High magic attack, nothing else really. A good class to combo with Warrior for a Pally build.
Ninja - Through-the-roof speed, bad everything else. Has one of the more broken combos in the game (Chakra Flux + Stealth) if you go to Jonin. Swiftstrike is really good. Difficult class to use, but very good.
Spiremages - Probably the best pure class in the game, and one of the most annoying. Stifle is really good, as are Divert and Negate. Void is crazy, and Fimbulvinter is a cool novelty move. Recommended.
Pikemen - A good Marshal build can pretty much shut down pretty much everything - take it from me. Gets Crowd Control which is currently very good, and 30BS, a piercing spell that is also really good (though worse than Smash). Also gets Marshal's Mount, which is really, really good.
Horsemen - Use Pikeman instead.
Archers - Go for a Warrior/Spiremage Pally build instead. <_<
Apprentices - Horrible equipment, potentially overpowered spells.
Bards - Primarily support.
Tamers - Don't use this until more of its spells get implemented. >_>
Dragon Knight - Don't use this yet.
Necromancer - Or this.
Hermit - Or this.
Lich - Maybe this is useful now that it has Cleric/Steward spells, but it wasn't before. <_<;
Arcane Knight - Possibly a useful build (I think you can go Soldier -> Weaver -> Paladin -> Necromancer -> AK), but I haven't tried this yet.
Berserker - Warrior+. Gets my stamp of approval.
Samurai - Potentially really, really good. It's a bit like Soldier+. However, I believe currently there's no way to get this class. <_<;
Master - Probably the best class in the game, or at least it used to be when Necrosis was broken. Still really, really good.
Sage - Has Planetary Shift.
Paladin - Depending on what build you use, can be either really good or just average.
Relevator - Don't use this yet. <_<
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Liberal Arts Major
Summons don't level up yet (I haven't figured out how I want to do that), so yeah, Summoners currently suck. So do Spellbinders and Weavers. They all suffer from a horrible lack of spells.
Divert
Now that Necrosis has been tamed, Divert is probably among the most broken spells in the game. Its only downside is that it doesn't redirect AoE spells.
which is currently very good
And, if you're wondering why, it's because Crowd Control shuts down almost every boss in the game for free (that is, after you cast it turn one).
(though worse than Smash)
30 Barb-Strike has a 1.3 attack multiplier, if I recall correctly, while Smash is 1.1. 30BS is the third- or second-best defense breaker in the game after Leap and Surge.
However, I believe currently there's no way to get this class. <_<;
There's one combination (two if you switch the order of the classes) that can become a Samurai. It's not entirely obvious, but one of the requirements should be a given.
Don't use this yet. <_<
Definitely avoid making a Revelator now; but Umbris is a pretty good preview of what they're supposed to do.
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Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.
"Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde
Message last edited by Silvas on 5/10/2007 at 07:44:12 PM
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Oh really? o_O I didn't notice this. In fact, I never noticed an attack multiplier at all. I assumed it was just a Smash that costs more SP. >_>;
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Necromancer - Or this.
You're pretty wrong on this. A properly constructed Dragon Knight is one of the best classes to use in SS so far. However, unless you plan to go all out and do it right? Yeah, then I'd pass on it. This class isn't for the norm, it's meant to be somewhat difficult to use to it's fullest. Hence the major gaps in some equipment levels. That was done intentionally to make this class a little harder to use early on. It will also have access to an immensely powerful Special Class II form once Ogor and I go over more things about it and I get a proper plan completely done. Dragon Knights will also be getting a mount system put in place when I decide to go back through and actually work on it.
As for Necromancer, you're partially right. But this will change once I get my Necromancer and test things out spell wise and see what needs to be done. Lich will also be very, very good once I get around to making more spells. Ogor is already aware of one very good spell that will make Liches extremely useful in PvP and in some cases of MvP.
Sage - Has Planetary Shift.
Also has very, very good equipment. Some of which have the highest values so far for a magic using class. It's an all around solid wall and excellent attacker. Best possible class for a Mage IMO.
EDIT: Oh, and Wizard and Warlock will be getting better soon enough too once I work out some things on the new spells for them.
EDIT 2: Most of the stuff is almost done now... aside from two minor catches with Wizard/Warlock spell names.
EDIT 3: All of it is done and posted.
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Liberal Arts Major
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~ Ogordemir ~
Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.
"Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde
Liberal Arts Major
System Updates
- The worldmap now has size settings, calculated as distance around your character sideways (X) and upways (Y). If you believe those two words don't, technically, exist, then you my friend are totally square. (Aside: I've set mine to a comfortable 25 * 12. It takes a lot less time to load this way.)
Story Updates
- None at this time.
Content Updates
- None at this time.
World Updates
- The whole world has been created, although most of it is empty and the rest of it is water. I've taken great care to preserve the important fields of the past, although they might not all be in the same place as before; Marutin I and Great Blue Whale, however, have been removed for the time being. Marutin I will return as a Manticore-like boss (i.e., after you beat him once, you can beat him again), while the Whale will return... sometime. Not sure when exactly, though.
- If you're wondering, the design of the world is not complete. After spending an hour and a half on the south-west peninsula and bay (think obsessive-compulsive perfectionist attempting to draw a curve out of blocks), I realized it would be impossible for me to release this in a timely manner were I to completely finish its design. As such, I will continue to shape the world in the coming days.
Bug Updates
- None at this time.
Scheduled Updates
- Same as the schedule updates announced on May 7, although there might be some more goodies waiting in the wings.
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~ Ogordemir ~
Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.
"Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde
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First you create bosses with dynamic stats, then you nerf Necrosis, then you announce plans to nerf Crowd Control, then you remove the whale. =(
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~ Ogordemir ~
Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.
"Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde
Legend
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Legend
Umbris the Revelator cast Adumbration, revealing Wario's Polevault Tackle!
Umbris the Revelator is defending!
Umbris the Revelator cast Revelation, revealing Khali's Smash!
Umbris the Revelator's revelation pierced through Khali, dealing 71 damage!
Kane attacked Umbris the Revelator, dealing 278 damage!
Umbris the Revelator's iron defense nullified the damage!
Wario impaled Umbris the Revelator, dealing -1 damage!
Umbris the Revelator's iron defense nullified the damage! The Undertaker attacked Umbris the Revelator, dealing 0 damage!
Umbris the Revelator was poisoned!
Umbris the Revelator's iron defense nullified the damage!
Khali smashed Umbris the Revelator, dealing 243 of damage.
Umbris the Revelator's iron defense nullified the damage!
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"Those are only my precious hands you're standing on." Black Mage
Legend
The field was brought to order!
Umbris the Revelator cast Adumbration, revealing Wario's Cuspidated Bulwark!
Umbris the Revelator dealt 0 damage to Wario!
Umbris the Revelator cast Revelation, revealing Wario's Valkyrian Spear!
Umbris the Revelator's revelation pierced through Wario, dealing 0 damage!
Umbris the Revelator cast Revelation, revealing Wario's Impale!
Umbris the Revelator's revelation pierced through Wario, dealing 0 damage!
Wario attacked Umbris the Revelator, dealing 10 damage!
Wario=Invincible to Umbris XD
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Legend
Ah what the ****, what is that bullshit?
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