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Ogordemir99 Posted: 11/19/2006 8:07:03 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 091
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
That's true, I assume he's a second class or a real eager worker.

But still. Wtf? >_>
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Scorpion 316 Posted: 11/19/2006 8:09:01 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 092
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
I'm still trying to figure that out myself. >_>
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Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 11/19/2006 8:15:35 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 093
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I'd say he leveled up before taking his class and put all points into HP/SP. This explains why he's a level 1 Spiremage with those stats. >_>

Indeed. I decided to work smarter, not harder, and poured 25 levels worth of points into HP/SP before giving Mewtwo a class. Seeing as how there's no good way to level up once you're third class, I decided to get the points early. And HP and SP to maximize the benefit - they're the only stats that improve as you level up.

*folds a portable hole into itself so it's easier to carry*
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Scorpion 316 Posted: 11/19/2006 8:35:59 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 094
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
That reminds me. Because of the 10% EXP/Gold barrier I feel that third class characters should get like 10-15 stat points a level instead of 5. It just seems a bit more fair in my opinion, considering it takes more work per level.
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Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 11/19/2006 9:12:04 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 095
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Or give us enemies that provide decent EXP/Gold. Hell, I'd settle for just gold. :( *wants like 18 Cthulhu Dolls*
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Scorpion 316 Posted: 11/19/2006 9:13:19 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 096
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Hey Ogor.. I finally got around to using "Lure" and this comes up every time. Also, does Lure work on spells too?


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Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 11/19/2006 9:14:23 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 097
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Wait! Inspiration has hit me like a ton of bricks! To the Kencave!

*NANA NANA NANA NANA KENMAN!*

...To the Creative Landfill topiX!
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Scorpion 316 Posted: 11/19/2006 9:21:30 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 098
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Or give us enemies that provide decent EXP/Gold. Hell, I'd settle for just gold. :( *wants like 18 Cthulhu Dolls*

I'd rather have a stat boost for third classes.. but we do need better ways for EXP and Gold too. I'd settle for more stat points and a better way for Gold though, but having it all would be grand. =/
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xp1337 Posted: 11/19/2006 11:14:10 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 099
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Seeing as how there's no good way to level up once you're third class,

For you lamers.

*Points at Level 74 Necromancer Jade and ~37 other characters*

If this stat bonus comes up, oh man, everyone is so screwed, Jade and Co.'s retroactive boosts will turn them into Gods. Gods I say!
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Scorpion 316 Posted: 11/19/2006 11:45:11 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 100
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
For you lamers.

I wasn't really saying anything about the leveling up. My main gripe is that they have this block thrown on them, and no real positive points to speak of. Stat boosts would get rid of this gripe. Now the gold, that is a problem. I just basically added in the EXP part in my previous post because for some people it would be a help. I personally, have no problem mass killing Kraken until more monsters are added. The Gold however, IS an issue I have a problem with. Especially with some third class stuff being so expensive.

I also forgot to mention, I don't think ANYONE should be given stats they missed out on if a boost on those points is put in place. However, if you would want to Ogor, that's up to you. Any classes not effected by the 10% EXP/Gold thing, should also not get boosted stat points, but I figured that was obvious. >_>
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xp1337 Posted: 11/19/2006 11:47:27 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 101
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Personally, I don't see a need for a boost at all!

Even with the barrier I have my standard team in the mid-to-high 30s.
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Scorpion 316 Posted: 11/19/2006 11:52:37 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 102
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
I really don't see any relevance on that to not give 5-10 more stat points to third level classes. Regardless of the level your team is at, that's not supplying a sufficient reason of not to do so, because not everyone has that much time to sit and kill Kraken.

On a side note:

Ogor, I started leveling one of my characters without giving them a class. I've pumped every stat point into HP, so look below and see if you can see something odd. It might be in bold print. >_>

Attack: 10
Defense: 10
Magic Attack: 30
Magic Defense: 10
Speed: 10

how this happen

I have no equipment on him or anything. >_>;
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xp1337 Posted: 11/19/2006 11:54:47 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 103
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
I don't see any reason to NOT give my characters this same boost retroactively if you implement it.

It isn't my fault I'm this awesome.

As for Jade, he deserves the boost on the sole virtue of being Jade. Fact.
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Scorpion 316 Posted: 11/19/2006 11:57:27 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 104
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
I don't see any reason to NOT give my characters this same boost retroactively if you implement it.

It isn't my fault I'm this awesome.


You're not the only one who wouldn't get past points. Neither would I or Kenri, and you'd figure I'd be someone who would want them considering my stats are rather low.

As for Jade, he deserves the boost on the sole virtue of being Jade. Fact.

Fiction. No, wait, not strong enough. Lies and fairy dust.
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xp1337 Posted: 11/19/2006 12:01:53 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 105
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
You're not the only one who wouldn't get past points. Neither would I or Kenri, and you'd figure I'd be someone who would want them considering my stats are rather low.

Actually, I figure you two would be the ones not for past points because I get ****ed over in comparison. I lose 35+ levels worth, and you guys lose... what? 10?
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Scorpion 316 Posted: 11/19/2006 12:07:12 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 106
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Actually, I figure you two would be the ones not for past points because I get ****ed over in comparison. I lose 35+ levels worth, and you guys lose... what? 10?

I would lose about 7 on my Paladin. Normally, I'd be all for past points. Considering the fact that if it's upped to 15, that's 70 points. When you look at my stats, even 70 is a large number that would greatly help. The fact is, I don't see a point in Ogor having to go back and reimburse everyone for an idea being brought up late because no one mentioned it earlier. If Ogor wants to do so, that's fine. All I said was that I personally don't really think it's needed. If you think it's because I'm somehow out to fuck you over, you're wrong.
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xp1337 Posted: 11/19/2006 12:08:46 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 107
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Oh, I'm not saying you're doing it with the intention to screw me over, just that your way will screw me over.

Also, this is nothing to Ogor, I think. If it's like gold, he can fix it in a second.

Now I am off to Best Buy to hopefully get a Wii!
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Scorpion 316 Posted: 11/19/2006 12:18:57 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 108
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Oh, I'm not saying you're doing it with the intention to screw me over, just that your way will screw me over.

Also, this is nothing to Ogor, I think. If it's like gold, he can fix it in a second.


Well, if it is and he wants to, that's his choice. I just threw in my input. From here, I could go on to show how you misled me into thinking that you were saying Kenri and I were out to get you, but I don't feel the need if it was just a misunderstanding and it wasn't your intention to say that how it sounded. So, good luck with your Wii I guess. >_>
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Scorpion 316 Posted: 11/19/2006 1:32:17 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 109
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Ogor:

The Magic Attack 20 point boost just happened to another character. Vivi has 30 points in Magic Attack now too, and I haven't used ANY of his stat points yet into any other slots. >_>; He's level 13 and still has 60 stat points to allocate.
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 11/19/2006 7:06:29 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 110
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Hey Ogor.. I finally got around to using "Lure" and this comes up every time. Also, does Lure work on spells too?


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Lure is supposed to work on spells. I'll look into it.

The Magic Attack 20 point boost just happened to another character. Vivi has 30 points in Magic Attack now too, and I haven't used ANY of his stat points yet into any other slots. >_>; He's level 13 and still has 60 stat points to allocate.

Were you doing anything with him? Like, say, killing Winter Krakens?

Concerning the gold, exp, stat point debate:

1. I will make stronger monsters. That was kind of the point of the barrier - to force third-class characters to level among stronger things. I didn't calculate my lazyness into the equation, though. >_>

2. I will increase the stat points third-class characters receive to 10.

3. Everyone will get a very special Christmas bonus in the form of the stat points you would have gotten had the increase been in place when your characters first obtained a third class. This is because (a) there are three of you, and (b) it's ridiculously simple to do.
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Scorpion 316 Posted: 11/19/2006 8:52:46 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 111
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Lure is supposed to work on spells. I'll look into it.

Okay. >_>

Were you doing anything with him? Like, say, killing Winter Krakens?

Well, those and Queen Kraken. He kept dying a lot too. >_>

1. That helps. >_>

2. Hooray.

3. Okay then.
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 11/19/2006 9:16:26 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 112
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Stat points have been adjusted, I believe.
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Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.
"Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde
Scorpion 316 Posted: 11/19/2006 9:40:03 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 113
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
My Paladin, Lynx, was five points short. He's level 9 and that would be 45 points. He got 40. Unless my math is wrong (could be. I just woke up.) he's missing five points. So is my Shaman, Alexander Kenton.
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Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 11/19/2006 9:43:50 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 114
Level: 43
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Did you factor in that you start at level 1? >_>
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Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 11/19/2006 9:46:11 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 115
Level: 43
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Oh, Ogor, did you get my two guys in the tavern? I assume you did, but I'm too lazy to check. <_<
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Scorpion 316 Posted: 11/19/2006 9:46:46 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 116
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
...Nope. Like I said, just woke up. Need some Mountain Dew and a chance to really straighten out. >_>; Just ignore that.
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 11/19/2006 9:55:14 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 117
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
My algorithm was:

CURRENT_POINTS + ((CHARACTER_LEVEL - 1) * 5)

And no, I didn't get the tavern people. I kind of forgot them. >_>
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Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.
"Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde
Ogordemir99 Posted: 11/19/2006 9:58:11 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 118
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
I believe I fixed the tavern people.
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Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.
"Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde
Scorpion 316 Posted: 11/19/2006 9:58:26 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 119
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Screw the Tavern people! They're all drunks and whores!

...>_> I'm gonna go get the Mountain Dew now..
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 11/19/2006 9:58:49 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 120
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Good plan.
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