Liberal Arts Major
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"Enough is enough! I have had it with these monkey-fighting snakes on this Monday-to-Friday plane!" - TV Edited Snakes on a Plane
Liberal Arts Major
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"Enough is enough! I have had it with these monkey-fighting snakes on this Monday-to-Friday plane!" - TV Edited Snakes on a Plane
Liberal Arts Major
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~ Ogordemir ~
"The sciences have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." ~ H.P Lovecraft, The Call of Cthulhu
Liberal Arts Major
EDIT: Nevermind, I'm stupid and didn't level up.
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Message last edited by Scorpion 316 on 1/2/2010 at 01:02:16 AM
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This is most evident in the Soldier selection right now...
A +5 DEF Soldier Helm costs 10 gold where the generic +5 DEF Helm is 8 gold. And the Rider's Helm which is accidentally generic )If I understood what happened earlier), is +10 DEF (though it does cost more).
And perhaps most bizarrely...
Iron Boots and Iron Legs are both Soldier equips, both are +5 DEF and -5 SPD, except the former is 100 gold and the latter is 300 gold. And on top of all this, the generic Oversize Boots are +10 DEF and -5 SPD at 50 gold.
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xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out?
Liberal Arts Major
The Oversize Boots though...
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"Enough is enough! I have had it with these monkey-fighting snakes on this Monday-to-Friday plane!" - TV Edited Snakes on a Plane
Liberal Arts Major
What would you say they should cost?
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"The sciences have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." ~ H.P Lovecraft, The Call of Cthulhu
Liberal Arts Major
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Liberal Arts Major
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"The sciences have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." ~ H.P Lovecraft, The Call of Cthulhu
Liberal Arts Major
Alternatively, and perhaps more in keeping from having a bunch of statistically similar equipment except with differing costs, in cases where equipment costs the same, the ones restricted to a class is better.
I don't know if you want to just apply a more or less general rule such as say 20% better as an example in all such cases, or to take it on a case-by-case basis though.
As for this particular case, if we're changing the cost and not the stats, then either put them the same as whatever the generic is, or maybe make it a bit cheaper, I wouldn't be too concerned with the exact price.
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Liberal Arts Major
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xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out?
Liberal Arts Major
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~ Ogordemir ~
"The sciences have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." ~ H.P Lovecraft, The Call of Cthulhu
Liberal Arts Major
EDIT: He also actually gets hurt by Squirrels. For 7000 gold, this is ridiculous.
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Message last edited by Scorpion 316 on 1/2/2010 at 01:44:15 AM
Liberal Arts Major
Ridiculous? Or AWESOME?!
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"The sciences have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." ~ H.P Lovecraft, The Call of Cthulhu
Liberal Arts Major
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Wasn't going to do it but then I did!
On a related note, it's been so long since I've played a hybrid class that I forget. Can you equip items from your old class while you're in your new class?
Well, that's the thing: I don't really know what it should do.
Welllll. Let's look at this from an overlap perspective.
What does a Cleric do? As far as I can remember, they did three things:
1) Healed people.
2) Conferred various advantages to their allies.
3) Launched off fairly crazy attack spells.
We can safely rule 3 out for the most part since it required a Matriarch and was, even then, quite rare.
Now, what do Horsemen do? They have a bunch of different effects that care about mounts in some way. Yes, they have other abilities, but those were mostly me being stupid and a bad spell designer.
So, let's put that together. Note that I'm ignoring SP cost/gold cost/etc since this is mostly just a proof of concept type thing...
Name: King and Horse
Target: One mounted ally (including self), or an allied mount
Effect: Makes target (if an ally) invincible until their mount is killed. Makes target (if a mount) invincible until their rider is killed. Enchanted target will take damage as normal until reduced to 1 HP, at which point they will no longer take damage. If attempted on a target whose mount or rider is already enchanted by King and Horse, spell would fizzle. (Possibly, only one target period could be enchanted by King and Horse at a time.) Regardless of target, message (as seen by opponents) would be same.
Name: Stable Restoration
Target: All allied mounts
Effects: Grants an enchantment on all mounts that heals them by 10% of their max HP at the start of every turn.
Name: Together We Ride
Target: All mounted allies (includes self)
Effects: Grants an enchantment on all mounted allies that heals them by 10% of their max HP at the start of every turn so long as they're mounted.
Name: All the King's Horses
Target: Single (non-mount) ally (including self)
Effects: Heals according to the number of allied mounts in the battle - for example, 1 mount = 25%, 2 mounts = 50%, 3 mounts = 75%, 4 mounts = 100%. Except that's probably broken.
Name: Ride 'n' Heal
Target: Any single allied target (including self)
Effects: Goes first. Heals target for a decent mount. Only works if caster is mounted.
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"There's a pony in the shop, but don't buy it. It might do something unfortunate to you." ~from the first Summoner's Seal topic
Liberal Arts Major
That's just a simple solution.
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Fist has changed to Warrior.
Archer has changed to Weaver.
Mastermind has changed to Cleric.
As an aside. I think I was wrong about the Mildly Heavy Spear being for Pikemen and not Horsemen. <_< "whoops"
Also, I am so not complaining, but I can equip the Whirling Pole even though it's supposed to be for "level 24 Pikemen" (which don't exist anymore). I'm currently a level 20/1 Pikeman/Pikeman. Likewise for the Basic Longbowman (level 21 Archer) for my level 20/1 Archer/Weaver. I'd assume this has to do with the fact that those levels don't exist anymore, but I dunno. Like I said, not complaining.
Edit: With no levels in classless, so that's actually 0/20/1.
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Message last edited by Kenri of the Yuri on 1/2/2010 at 02:53:18 AM
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<3 Trample
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"There's a pony in the shop, but don't buy it. It might do something unfortunate to you." ~from the first Summoner's Seal topic
Liberal Arts Major
ATK +25. Level 12. Soldier.
Bastard Sword Slash power go!
ATK +35. Level 8. Soldier.
See the problem there? I actually remembered that from before too. >_> Should switch the level requirements I think.
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Notice: Undefined index: 134115144 in /homepages/22/d185546810/htdocs/boards/battlepage.php on line 491
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spell_ does not exist
Getting these errors while fighting Sorlit.
Normally I get them (or similar errors) if I'm in a battle and click "submit" before the page has completely loaded, but something else seems to be causing it here.
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Mastermind trampled Sorlt, dealing 175 damage!
Archer cast Magic Blast!
Sorlt was hit with a magical ball of energy, taking 30 damage!
Fist attacked Sorlt, dealing 58 damage!
Mountstermind attacked Sorlt, dealing 0 damage!
Murderhorse attacked Sorlt, dealing 0 damage!
Sorlt smashed Archer, dealing 118 damage!
Archer was killed!
Sorlt attacked Kenri, dealing 98 damage!
Sorlt used Stamp Down on Murderhorse, dealing 104 damage!
Murderhorse was killed!
Sorlt skewered Kenri, dealing 94 damage! Kenri was killed!
Someday, Sorlit...
Someday...
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spell_0 does not existspell_0 does not exist
Coughs up that error when they try.
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I can't figure out how this happened, though. Or even when, since I haven't really been paying attention.
I can't remember how many points he lost, either, but it can't have been more than 15. Probably closer to 10.
Spells I've cast:
Ki Blast
Rei Gun
Muscle Buff
Barrage of Fists
Recklessness
Berserk
...I think that's it.
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"There's a pony in the shop, but don't buy it. It might do something unfortunate to you." ~from the first Summoner's Seal topic
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Sorlt was killed!
yesssssssssssssssssssssssssss
Okay, so only one character survived the battle, but still. Revenge is mine. <_<
You've earned 42 gold and 32 experience points.
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"There's a pony in the shop, but don't buy it. It might do something unfortunate to you." ~from the first Summoner's Seal topic
Liberal Arts Major
... Fix that before I try again. <_<
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I'm not doubting you, but if you think, "whoa I took out half its HP in turn 1, this won't be too bad", noooo, you are so wrong. >_>
I hope you were abusing Trample. <3 Trample.
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"There's a pony in the shop, but don't buy it. It might do something unfortunate to you." ~from the first Summoner's Seal topic
Liberal Arts Major
EDIT: Removed the last portion of this post due to forgetting what the first post mentioned about Scapegoat. Silly me.
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Message last edited by Scorpion 316 on 1/2/2010 at 08:47:09 AM
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I may have to resort to this. But, for now...
Can you equip items from your old class while you're in your new class?
Yes. You can equip the items/learn spells from any previous classes regardless of the level requirements of those items (which is why your Pikeman/Pikeman can equip any Pikeman item). And, to answer your question about level 20 items for base classes: I thought about removing those, but it does sort of make the order you pick your base classes relevant, so I kept them.
So, let's put that together. Note that I'm ignoring SP cost/gold cost/etc since this is mostly just a proof of concept type thing...
Keep in mind also that third classes don't necessarily have to be a conception combination of their bases; they can be totally different.
Longer Sword This item describes itself.
ATK 25. Level 12. Soldier.
Bastard Sword Slash power go!
ATK 35. Level 8. Soldier.
XD
Getting these errors while fighting Sorlit... Ponies and Sturdy Mares don't seem to be able to defend, even though they have the option of doing so.
Those undefined index things are your Sturdy Mare. Are you trying to defend with it?
I can't remember how many points he lost, either, but it can't have been more than 15. Probably closer to 10.
None of those spells deal with MATK. What items have you unequipped?
You've earned 42 gold and 32 experience points.
Sorlit is base 50 exp. The formula takes the absolute value, so if you have a huge negative NDPT it'll treat it like a huge positive and you'll lose exp. This kind of makes sense but it's really a bit steep.
It's harder to beat than it looks.
Which is a lot better than "totally impossible", the dubious honor earned by Widening Slash Sorlit.
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~ Ogordemir ~
"The sciences have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." ~ H.P Lovecraft, The Call of Cthulhu