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xp1337 Posted: 11/23/2006 2:51:19 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 181
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You've forgotten the biggest problem. =(

4. No Necromancer stuff. =(
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Scorpion 316 Posted: 11/23/2006 3:14:44 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 182
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Actually.. I don't think Ogor added ANY items. >_> The only thing I can "see" that was done is the Ajax thing. Nothing else. <_<
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 11/23/2006 6:01:35 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 183
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Nope, the Ajax thing took eight hours, so I was rather swamped.
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Scorpion 316 Posted: 11/23/2006 6:55:29 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 184
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Eight hours? Well, that's understandable for not adding anything else. However, the lack of Manticores, King Kraken, and Marutin are starting to make me want to always end a post with a frowny emoticon. I can do without pretty much anything else.. I just need new foes. =(
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 11/23/2006 7:01:08 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 185
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Eight hours?

Yes, I had to go through like a thousand lines of code and replace lines of text that were to be printed to the screen with lines of text assigned to a variable that was to be returned, formatted, and THEN printed to the screen.

Well, that's understandable for not adding anything else. However, the lack of Manticores, King Kraken, and Marutin are starting to make me want to always end a post with a frowny emoticon. I can do without pretty much anything else.. I just need new foes. =(

I'm reluctant to add any monsters without changing the AI, so I'm working on that now.
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Scorpion 316 Posted: 11/23/2006 7:39:41 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 186
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Yes, I had to go through like a thousand lines of code and replace lines of text that were to be printed to the screen with lines of text assigned to a variable that was to be returned, formatted, and THEN printed to the screen.

I wasn't really asking why it took eight hours, I already figured it was something like that. I just had that there as an expression for the rest of the sentence, not exactly a stand alone question. >_>

I'm reluctant to add any monsters without changing the AI, so I'm working on that now.

Hooray. This makes the urge for frowny emoticons go away kind of!
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 11/23/2006 7:41:19 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 187
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I wasn't really asking why it took eight hours, I already figured it was something like that. I just had that there as an expression for the rest of the sentence, not exactly a stand alone question. >_>

Oh.

Oops.
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Scorpion 316 Posted: 11/23/2006 7:46:26 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 188
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Oops indeed. >_>
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 11/23/2006 10:41:23 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 189
Level: 49
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Update:

The new AI is in place. Try it out, specifically on Winter and Queen Kraken. Also Poseidon, if you like to die.
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Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 11/23/2006 10:46:39 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 190
Level: 49
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Wow, this thing is riddled with errors.

...And these bastards still try to cast Fimbulvinter.

-_-;
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xp1337 Posted: 11/23/2006 10:49:03 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 191
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Pfft. I'll take on Poseidon.

*Turns on Rawk Hawk Rock*

Let's do this

FEEL THE RAWK!
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 11/23/2006 10:49:36 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 192
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Liberal Arts Major
I'm not feeling it.
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Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.
"Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde
xp1337 Posted: 11/23/2006 10:49:41 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 193
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Parse error: parse error, unexpected T_BOOLEAN_AND in /homepages/22/d185546810/htdocs/boards/ai.fishies.php on line 424

God damnit, that was anti-climatic.
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 11/23/2006 10:50:44 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 194
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Fixed a while ago. >_>
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Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.
"Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde
xp1337 Posted: 11/23/2006 10:52:28 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 195
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Jade Curtiss is wreathed in the sorrow of those lost...
Jade Curtiss cast Dark Revival!
Tear was resurrected!
Natalia prepares for an attack.
Poseidon, God of the Sea attacked Jade Curtiss, dealing 727 points of damage.
Poseidon, God of the Sea attacked Luke, dealing 361 points of damage.
Luke was killed!
Poseidon, God of the Sea attacked Natalia, dealing 119 points of damage.

Oh sweet Jesus, he attacks 3 times now?
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xp1337 Posted: 11/23/2006 10:53:37 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 196
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Well, I went 3 or 4 turns before fleeing. >_>
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Scorpion 316 Posted: 11/23/2006 11:03:41 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 197
Level: 49
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Even Queen Kraken hits like 2-3 times a turn now. >_> Of course, she sucks with her damage.. except on characters who have no equipment on and have no stats thrown into defense/magic defense yet. Which makes my leveling of Kain/Vivi significantly more difficult, as if it wasn't already a pain in the ass when she one hit them. Now she can kill both in one turn. <_<
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xp1337 Posted: 11/23/2006 11:04:10 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 198
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Not really a problem, but is it known that the AI (At least Queen Kraken) when making multiples moves in a turn, can only perform one action per turn, though it can have different targets.

More simply, it will use the same action for both moves in its turn, even if it changes targets during it.
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xp1337 Posted: 11/23/2006 11:05:20 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 199
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Well, I know that now, but at the time I only had faced Poseidon. =(
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Scorpion 316 Posted: 11/23/2006 11:52:42 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 200
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Okay, this AI update has made some things needlessly more difficult than they should be and cheap as hell. I'd explain what I mean.. but I'm practically falling asleep at the keyboard, so I better go to sleep. If you haven't found any of these things by the morning, I'll explain then because it's quite irritating. Of course, I could be severely over exaggerating it because I'm tired which makes even the slightest thing really set me off.. but we'll find out in the morning when I've had some rest and try playing again to see if it pisses me off as badly. >_>
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 11/23/2006 11:55:51 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 201
Level: 49
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I was actually just testing to see how multiple attacks work.

I'd say it was a success.

And, if you would like, I reduce the number of actions these little people can take. Although currently all Winter Kraken does is cast Frost and Divert. >_>
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 11/24/2006 12:00:28 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 202
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Not really a problem, but is it known that the AI (At least Queen Kraken) when making multiples moves in a turn, can only perform one action per turn, though it can have different targets.

I've noticed this too, and it boggles me. I'm trying to fix it right now and failing for some reason.

Also, por que Fimbulvinter?!

EDIT - I figured it out. It can take multiple actions now, but most of the time that will simply involve attacking.
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xp1337 Posted: 11/24/2006 12:52:00 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 203
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What's the timetable on Items (Particularly Necromancer, but others too I guess), and Marutin and Co.?

The weekend with those other things you said you'd do, or sometime next week/later?
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 11/24/2006 12:59:30 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 204
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
This weekend I should get a rather large update in terms of:

(1) Fixing the aforementioned errors.
(2) Deriving a workaround for the Fimbulvinter error, as I have no idea what in God's name is causing that. (This may move down in priority depending on whether or not it's an easy fix.)
(3) Items.
(4) Monsters. (Now that the framework is in place.)
(5) Spells (though probably only those associated with monsters and new classes).
(6) Classes.
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Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 11/24/2006 6:01:05 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 205
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Should I try to make some items/spells for Master/Spellcrafter/Revelator/etc before the weekend, or not bother right now? >_>

(2) Deriving a workaround for the Fimbulvinter error, as I have no idea what in God's name is causing that. (This may move down in priority depending on whether or not it's an easy fix.)

Seeing as how I seem to have caused this problem by creating Fimbulvintr, I'll try to offer a solution.

Fimbulvintr was part of the Norse end of the world, before Ragnarok (IIRC). It was three successive winters without any intervening summers. Fimbul is Old Norse for "the great/big", so Fimbulvintr is literally "The Great Big Winter".

So, in flavor, it would obviously be a powerful spell thrown out by Winterkeepers... And since it was 3 winters, my format for the damage would be:

(CASTER_MATK x 3) - DEFENDER_MDEF = DMG

Or however damage is applied regarding defense, but that's the basic idea.

May I suggest that the problem comes from the code for it being needlessly complicated? Or possibly a misspelling somewhere along the line? (I note this because I proposed the spell as Fimbulvintr, but you just spelled it Fimbulvinter. >_>)
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 11/24/2006 6:21:13 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 206
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Should I try to make some items/spells for Master/Spellcrafter/Revelator/etc before the weekend, or not bother right now? >_>

You could, if you want. I don't guarantee I'll get to them, though, so I suggest you do so only if you're bored.

(I note this because I proposed the spell as Fimbulvintr, but you just spelled it Fimbulvinter. >_>)

I used the colloquial Danish spelling, which is Fimbulvinter, pronounced /fIm.bUl.'vIn.tA/, if I am not mistaken (though I probably am).

(CASTER_MATK x 3) - DEFENDER_MDEF = DMG

This is the formula I used.

May I suggest that the problem comes from the code for it being needlessly complicated?

Not possible. Void works perfectly and it's somewhere between 50 and 90 lines long.

Or possibly a misspelling somewhere along the line?

That's not quite possible:

(a) Fimbulvinter itself is executing.
(b) The code uses ID's to insert actions, then replaces these ID's with the spell name immediately before evaluation.

(a) means that (b) is working fine, which means that the only two spellings necessary are correlated perfectly.

The problem is that Fimbulvinter is weaseling its way into the turn queue out of nowhere for I don't know what reason, when it should never have been inserted in the first place.
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Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.
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Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 11/24/2006 6:22:32 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 207
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Queen Kraken cast Submerge! The field is flooded!
Queen Kraken tried to cast Submerge, but the field is already under water!
Marshal's Mount attacked Queen Kraken, dealing 178 points of damage.
Wanda attacked Queen Kraken, dealing 248 points of damage.
Queen Kraken was killed!


Haha, these things are stupid as hell. <_<
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 11/24/2006 6:23:57 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 208
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Hm. That sounds like... a freak event!
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Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.
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Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 11/24/2006 6:25:15 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 209
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I used the colloquial Danish spelling, which is Fimbulvinter, pronounced /fIm.bUl.'vIn.tA/, if I am not mistaken (though I probably am).

Wikipedia says Fimbulvintr, Fimbulwinter, and Fimbulvetr. I chose the one I liked the most. >_>

For the rest... Wow, that's really weird. o_o
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 11/24/2006 6:26:44 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 210
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Wikipedia says Fimbulvintr, Fimbulwinter, and Fimbulvetr. I chose the one I liked the most. >_>

I ran it through my Danish-English dictionary when you told me and got no Fimbul- but got a -vinter, so I used that. Ar.

For the rest... Wow, that's really weird. o_o

That's why I haven't fixed it yet. >_>
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