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| Scorpion 316 | Posted: 11/24/2006 1:43:22 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 211 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Queen Kraken cast Submerge! The field is flooded! Queen Kraken tried to cast Submerge, but the field is already under water! Marshal's Mount attacked Queen Kraken, dealing 178 points of damage. Wanda attacked Queen Kraken, dealing 248 points of damage. Queen Kraken was killed! That is a freak event. Every other battle or so, she keeps killing both of my weaker characters in one hit each. Mainly because they don't have any equipment on or stats in DEF or MDEF, but it's annoying as hell since they're the real reason I'm fighting her currently. <_< Anyway, back to what was bugging me last night. WKs were being fucking cheap, and doing nothing but spamming Divert every turn. This did two things: 1. Pissed me off in my rather tired state. 2. Essentially made it so I couldn't do anything because I soon realized Divert was redirecting my normal Attack command, and killing my party. I realized this when I looked down and everyone was dead except Quistis. I then ran away, and clicked Back a couple times to find out what happened, and Lynx had killed everyone else and himself. >_> +++ http://i15.tinypic.com/4c1rtwh.jpg If only the Catholics would really see the light.. *sigh* |
| Scorpion 316 | Posted: 11/24/2006 1:48:07 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 212 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | I forgot to add, I don't think WK should have multiple actions per turn. Queen makes sense, since storyline wise she's technically a mini boss when paired with King Kraken. Winter Kraken however.. as far as I can tell is a base enemy and really shouldn't have multiple turns. Multiple turns should only be done with really fast and agile normal enemies (Werewolves, when I add them) or enemies that seem prone to berserk tendencies (Sharks could possibly fit this criteria.). Pretty much all mini bosses/bosses should have at least two attacks per turn though, sometimes more. +++ http://i15.tinypic.com/4c1rtwh.jpg If only the Catholics would really see the light.. *sigh* |
| Scorpion 316 | Posted: 11/24/2006 10:20:32 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 213 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Uh oh. Looks like Fimbulvinter's targeting of a non-existent enemy has spread to Pillar Rain! Queen Kraken cast Pillar Rain on , dealing 106 damage! was killed! Queen Kraken cast Pillar Rain on Lynx, dealing 0 damage! Kain Highwind attacked Queen Kraken, dealing 18 points of damage. Lynx attacked Queen Kraken, dealing 368 points of damage. Queen Kraken was killed! Also, here's an example of what I was talking about with WK. Winter Kraken redirected 3 spells! Winter Kraken cast Divert, but it did nothing! Quistis Trepe attacked Quistis Trepe, dealing 0 points of damage. Kain Highwind attacked Quistis Trepe, dealing 0 points of damage. Lynx attacked Quistis Trepe, dealing 339 points of damage. Quistis Trepe was killed! Now according to that.. it shouldn't have redirected Attack, considering it said spells. Also, Divert and Frost aren't the only things WK does. It also summons Wolves. +++ http://i15.tinypic.com/4c1rtwh.jpg If only the Catholics would really see the light.. *sigh* |
| The Twilight | Posted: 11/24/2006 10:53:13 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 214 |
| Level: 41 New Moderator | Divert says it redirected spells, but I need to change that, because it redirects everything. >_> Anyway, I'll probably switch WK back to one action a turn, but its ability to cast Negate (although I'm guessing it never does that) is rather useful. It also summons Wolves. Yes, I'm quite proud of that spell. >_> ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ When I feel like being awesome in another way. |
| Scorpion 316 | Posted: 11/24/2006 11:04:10 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 215 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Anyway, I'll probably switch WK back to one action a turn, but its ability to cast Negate (although I'm guessing it never does that) is rather useful. I've yet to see it do so with two turns, but it quite often did that with one turn. I can see why it is useful, considering when fighting two Winter Krakens that was what originally made me stop bothering to make Quistis cast spells at all and instead make her spam Defend all the time. That and Lynx's melee killing them, and pretty much anything else short of Poseidon, in one shot. Divert says it redirected spells, but I need to change that, because it redirects everything. >_> That would be really helpful, considering that's horribly confusing when trying to figure out a spell's effect. >_> Yes, I'm quite proud of that spell. >_> Yeah, I bet you are. <_< +++ http://i15.tinypic.com/4c1rtwh.jpg If only the Catholics would really see the light.. *sigh* |
| The Twilight | Posted: 11/24/2006 11:05:19 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 216 |
| Level: 41 New Moderator | I've yet to see it do so with two turns, but it quite often did that with one turn. I can see why it is useful, considering when fighting two Winter Krakens that was what originally made me stop bothering to make Quistis cast spells at all and instead make her spam Defend all the time. That and Lynx's melee killing them, and pretty much anything else short of Poseidon, in one shot. I way over coded the WK's AI, and Negate got the shaft there. I think I should lighten it up. ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ When I feel like being awesome in another way. |
| Scorpion 316 | Posted: 11/24/2006 11:12:09 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 217 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Yeah, I'd say so. >_> Queen Kraken seems alright however. Minus the fact Pillar Rain seems prone to targeting someone who doesn't exist and that she uses Fimbulvinter sometimes. >_> +++ http://i15.tinypic.com/4c1rtwh.jpg If only the Catholics would really see the light.. *sigh* |
| The Twilight | Posted: 11/24/2006 11:14:42 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 218 |
| Level: 41 New Moderator | Dems the pits. Although why she's targeting non-existent entities is beyond me. I'm guessing my targeting function is messed up, there, although I could easily be wrong. ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ When I feel like being awesome in another way. |
| Scorpion 316 | Posted: 11/24/2006 11:18:55 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 219 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Well, I don't really know either. However, considering Fimbulvinter likes to target that same non existent enemy, there could be a connection there. +++ http://i15.tinypic.com/4c1rtwh.jpg If only the Catholics would really see the light.. *sigh* |
| The Twilight | Posted: 11/24/2006 11:20:42 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 220 |
| Level: 41 New Moderator | It could be. Whenever I get around to working I'm going to have to shut down and do some debugging to see if I can spot the problem. ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ When I feel like being awesome in another way. |
| Scorpion 316 | Posted: 11/24/2006 11:22:09 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 221 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Well, that's probably the best plan. I'm sure the people who don't exist are getting tired of being killed off left and right. >_> +++ http://i15.tinypic.com/4c1rtwh.jpg If only the Catholics would really see the light.. *sigh* |
| The Twilight | Posted: 11/24/2006 11:23:45 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 222 |
| Level: 41 New Moderator | Yes. Pretty soon they'll file a class action suit. ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ When I feel like being awesome in another way. |
| Scorpion 316 | Posted: 11/24/2006 11:30:34 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 223 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Yes. Then we're all screwed. They'll call it a terrorist action and then their nation will initiate "Operation Fluxi Freedom" with the help of the internets, and the Google. +++ http://i15.tinypic.com/4c1rtwh.jpg If only the Catholics would really see the light.. *sigh* |
| The Twilight | Posted: 11/25/2006 4:02:18 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 224 |
| Level: 41 New Moderator | No. ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ When I feel like being awesome in another way. |
| The Twilight | Posted: 11/25/2006 4:18:34 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 225 |
| Level: 41 New Moderator | UPDATE: - Butcher Punch should have been fixed. - Lure should have been fixed. - Divert's text has been changed (spells => actions). I'm now going to shut down for debugging purposes. ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ When I feel like being awesome in another way. |
| Kenri of the Yuri | Posted: 11/25/2006 7:14:17 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 226 |
| Level: 43 Editor | Having fun with that Fimbulvinter bug? >_> --- "If I don't live diligently, I can't die. So I will fight. Even if... I have no chance of winning." ~Shinji Ikari, RE-TAKE |
| Ogordemir99 | Posted: 11/25/2006 7:25:09 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 227 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Yes. Here's a log I've created, archiving various events during a turn's evaluation: Tester => 0 => Queen Kraken Queen Kraken => Pillar Rain => Tester Tester => 0 => Queen Kraken Queen Kraken => Pillar Rain => Tester 17 6 Queen Kraken => 6 => Tester Queen Kraken => 17 => Tester Tester => 0 => Queen Kraken Queen Kraken => Pillar Rain => Tester Queen Kraken => 6 => Tester Queen Kraken => 17 => Tester Tester => 0 => Queen Kraken Queen Kraken => Pillar Rain => Tester 6 6 17 17 0 0 Pillar Rain Pillar Rain Queen Kraken => Energy Cylinder => Tester Queen Kraken => => Tester Tester => 0 => Queen Kraken Queen Kraken => Pillar Rain => Tester The bug is created sometime immediately after the player's actions have been entered, but before the allies' actions are manipulated. Other than that, I'm drawing a blank. ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt. "Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde Message last edited by Silvas on 11/25/2006 at 02:25:58 AM |
| Scorpion 316 | Posted: 11/25/2006 7:26:13 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 228 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | UPDATE: - Butcher Punch should have been fixed. - Lure should have been fixed. - Divert's text has been changed (spells => actions). Good. Now with Lure into her arsenal of tricks, Quistis will be useful again while I level on Queen Kraken. I just need to start pumping stats into DEF/MDEF now. And Divert is a lot less confusing. Win-Win situation. +++ http://i15.tinypic.com/4c1rtwh.jpg If only the Catholics would really see the light.. *sigh* |
| Ogordemir99 | Posted: 11/25/2006 7:40:45 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 229 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | It'll only been win-win once I rid myself of Fimbulvinter! Although I've figured out a workaround, so it's only a matter of time now. ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt. "Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde |
| Ogordemir99 | Posted: 11/25/2006 8:08:43 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 230 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | UPDATE: - Fimbulvinter bug fixed in the standard engine. The Ajax fix is soon to follow. (EDIT - This means you can play now. >_>) ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt. "Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde Message last edited by Silvas on 11/25/2006 at 03:09:03 AM |
| Ogordemir99 | Posted: 11/25/2006 8:19:26 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 231 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | UPDATE: - Fimbulvinter bug fixed in the Ajax engine. Now I am truly winner. EDIT - Next up, new bad guys. Most probably. ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt. "Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde Message last edited by Silvas on 11/25/2006 at 03:19:56 AM |
| Scorpion 316 | Posted: 11/25/2006 11:12:20 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 232 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Okay, there is definitely something going on with Queen Kraken against unequipped characters with no stats put into Magic Attack. Kain Highwind and Vivi Ornitier now have 60 Magic Attack. I haven't used ANY of their stats into magic. Kain's has been pumped into HP enough to give him at least 100 HP and the rest have gone into his Attack. Vivi has had no points go anywhere except to get his HP up to 100+ just a moment ago, after the glitch already happened and his Magic Attack had already gone up by another 30 points. So far, it's gone like this. First Time: 10 MATK to 30 MATK. This Time: 30 MATK to 60 MATK. Both times involved the Queen Kraken at some point, and I noticed this one directly following a Queen battle. So I think she "might" be the source. More specifically, something she does. +++ http://i15.tinypic.com/4c1rtwh.jpg If only the Catholics would really see the light.. *sigh* |
| Ogordemir99 | Posted: 11/25/2006 8:23:03 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 233 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | The only spell QK casts that has anything to do with MA is possibly Energy Cylinder while the field is submerged. Did that occur? ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt. "Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde |
| Scorpion 316 | Posted: 11/25/2006 8:54:39 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 234 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Actually.. I think it did the second time. However, I don't recall it ever happening the first time. +++ http://i15.tinypic.com/4c1rtwh.jpg If only the Catholics would really see the light.. *sigh* |
| Ogordemir99 | Posted: 11/25/2006 9:09:24 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 235 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Blegh. ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt. "Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde |
| Scorpion 316 | Posted: 11/25/2006 9:24:55 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 236 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Well.. Even though it used Energy Cylinder with a submerged field the second time, I'm not quite sure that's what causes it since I don't remember it doing that the first time. It's not really a serious glitch though in my opinion, since it doesn't happen often. The first time it happened was in or around the first five levels or so, and then it happened this time and they're in their mid to late twenties. So, it's not *that* bad and it only seems to effect characters with no equipment on or VERY low defensive stats (like base stats which Vivi/Kain both have.). Quistis, Lynx, Alexander, and Melon were never effected by this at all to my knowledge. +++ http://i15.tinypic.com/4c1rtwh.jpg If only the Catholics would really see the light.. *sigh* |
| Ogordemir99 | Posted: 11/25/2006 9:29:06 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 237 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | It is, however, a glitch, and I'll have to fix it eventually. ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt. "Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde |
| Scorpion 316 | Posted: 11/25/2006 9:34:42 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 238 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Well, of course. I just meant it has no real need to be top priority right this moment. I wouldn't have brought it back up if I didn't feel it needed fixed eventually. +++ http://i15.tinypic.com/4c1rtwh.jpg If only the Catholics would really see the light.. *sigh* |
| Ogordemir99 | Posted: 11/25/2006 9:50:43 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 239 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | It's more along the lines of bottom priority. >_> ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt. "Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde |
| Scorpion 316 | Posted: 11/25/2006 9:59:13 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 240 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Exactly what my point was. That's where it should be. <_< +++ http://i15.tinypic.com/4c1rtwh.jpg If only the Catholics would really see the light.. *sigh* |
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