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Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 1/3/2010 5:22:50 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 241
Level: 43
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(Return to the field.) Kenri was traded for Kenri Jr..
Unknown column 'stat_points' in 'field list'


That's all there is on the page.
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 1/3/2010 5:27:07 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 242
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
The "one level off" error has been fixed. For future reference ">" != ">=". >_>
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"The sciences have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." ~ H.P Lovecraft, The Call of Cthulhu
Ogordemir99 Posted: 1/3/2010 5:33:12 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 243
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
The total level problem with switching out characters has been fixed. I haven't restored actual total levels though. Tell me what characters were affected so I can nerf them. >_> Also, tell what characters lost SPs/how many SPs through experimentation with the allocator.

Kenri's/everyone's problem with the Reflecting Pool has also been fixed. The issue there was my retardation.
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~ Ogordemir ~
"The sciences have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." ~ H.P Lovecraft, The Call of Cthulhu
Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 1/3/2010 5:36:22 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 244
Level: 43
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Also, tell what characters lost SPs/how many SPs through experimentation with the allocator.

My main guy (Kenri) lost 2.

Don't worry about giving them back, it's not worth it. >_>
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 1/3/2010 5:37:58 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 245
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Nah, it's ridiculously easy to do.

In other news, Judgment has been nerfed.
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"The sciences have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." ~ H.P Lovecraft, The Call of Cthulhu
Ogordemir99 Posted: 1/3/2010 6:58:48 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 246
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
The Envoy class got a fairly complicated spell called Diplomatic Response. Someone should test it. >_>
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~ Ogordemir ~
"The sciences have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." ~ H.P Lovecraft, The Call of Cthulhu
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Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 1/3/2010 7:01:24 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 247
Level: 43
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Will do!

Edit: Will do as soon as I reach whatever its level requirement is!

Edit 2: Which, it turns out, is right now!
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Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 1/3/2010 7:13:10 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 248
Level: 43
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...After some stupidity because I forgot I had two mounts, here's what I've got:

If there are more enemies, everyone gets a small boost (~8) to ATK and MATK

If there are the same number or fewer enemies, everyone gets healed by a small amount (~8 HP). Edit: Including mounts that aren't in the battle, incidentally.

Re-edit: ...Yeeeah, even after giving the mounts to a guy and putting the guy in the tavern, it still acts like they're in the battle.
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Scorpion 316 Posted: 1/3/2010 7:33:13 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 249
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
[Spoiler for Pirate and Navigator Spells!, click to show]Name: Rum Rush
Target: All Allies
Effect: Boosts all allies Atk by 1.2x for two turns.
Flavor: Yo ho ho!
Class: Pirate
SP: 30

Name: Morale Boost
Target: All Allies
Effect: Boosts all allies Def by 1.2x for two turns.
Flavor: Arr!
Class: Pirate
SP: 30

Name: Powder Keg
Target: All Foes
Effect: Rolls and detonates a powder keg near your enemies dealing normal Atk damage to all of them.
Flavor: Yarr! Give 'em a special surprise!
SP: 20

Name: Focused Strike
Target: All Allies + One Foe
Effect: Boosts all allies Atk by 3x and forces them all to hit one target.
Flavor: Keep it between the navigational beacons!
Class: Navigator
SP: 60

Name: Critical Strike
Target: One Foe
Effect: Critically wounds the target for 5x damage with a chance of poisoning them.
Flavor: Your skill for finding quick routes through things isn't just with maps!
Class: Navigator
SP: 55

Name: Smooth Sailing
Target: All Allies
Effect: Boosts all allies SPD by 2.5x.
Flavor: Time is money!
Class: Navigator
SP: 35 </spoiler>


It's all I'm coming up with at the moment and it's a start. >_>
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 1/3/2010 7:34:51 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 250
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Re-edit: ...Yeeeah, even after giving the mounts to a guy and putting the guy in the tavern, it still acts like they're in the battle.

Yeah, and I think this is causing those errors you see and causing the spell to work incorrectly for you. Thanks, Diplomatic Response!

Incidentally, the reason putting a guy into a tavern isn't going to help anything is that the mount still exists as an ally independent of the character it's equipped to, which is the cause of the error. I think I'm going to have to change the architecture of the game to start deleting mounts when they're unmounted or their owners are switched out. This could cause some problems. >_>
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"The sciences have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." ~ H.P Lovecraft, The Call of Cthulhu
Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 1/3/2010 7:40:35 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 251
Level: 43
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Okay, so I managed to get an ally killed off, which should... hopefully let me test the spell.

...Except now it seems to be:

You have more guys: Buff everyone
You have the same number of guys: The Envoy attacks a couple of opponents
They have more guys: The Envoy attacks a couple of opponents

...

I don't even know. This doesn't make sense to me. >_>


As an aside, the octopus/squid/shark/father trout need to give substantially more EXP. Like 5x more. I got 33 EXP from killing 4 Sharks, a Father Trout, and a Salmon.
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Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 1/3/2010 7:42:47 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 252
Level: 43
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Name: Rum Rush
Target: All Allies
Effect: Boosts all allies Atk by 2x for two turns.
Flavor: Yo ho ho!
Class: Pirate
SP: 30

Name: Morale Boost
Target: All Allies
Effect: Boosts all allies Def by 2x for two turns.
Flavor: Arr!
Class: Pirate
SP: 30


These seem horribly OP for a tier one class.

Also, they're not that kind of pirate. (Oh wait, that says "rum"...)
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Scorpion 316 Posted: 1/3/2010 7:49:08 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 253
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
It's actually not that bad, considering the Cleric has a spell that makes everything do half damage for a turn no matter how strong it is. <_< Plus, the SP pool of a tier one class is rather low so you'd probably cast it like once and be out of SP.

EDIT: I also realized I messed up and that's supposed to be 1.2x. Whoops.
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 1/3/2010 7:54:05 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 254
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
I don't even know. This doesn't make sense to me. >_>

It's:

You > Them: Heal everyone equal to 11% of the Envoy's ATK.
You = Them: Boost everyone's ATK and MATK equal to 7% of the Envoy's MATK or MDEF or something.
You < Them: Exert (or perform a slightly weaker attack if the target is exhausted) randomly-chosen enemies until (a) the number of characters on both sides is equal, (b) the total damage dealt (including exertions) exceeds or equals the Envoy's max HP, or (c) zero or less damage would be dealt to any potential targets (to stop infinite loops).

Your extra unequipped mounts is throwing off your count.
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~ Ogordemir ~
"The sciences have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." ~ H.P Lovecraft, The Call of Cthulhu
Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 1/3/2010 7:55:28 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 255
Level: 43
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Your extra unequipped mounts is throwing off your count.

I thought I was accounting for them, though!

It's basic addition, I should be able to handle this!
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 1/3/2010 8:00:08 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 256
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
I could kill all your unequipped mounts for you. That would help. >_>

Also:

As an aside, the octopus/squid/shark/father trout need to give substantially more EXP. Like 5x more. I got 33 EXP from killing 4 Sharks, a Father Trout, and a Salmon.

Sounds about right. That's 3.3% of the total you need to gain a level and those things all suck anyway. >_>
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~ Ogordemir ~
"The sciences have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." ~ H.P Lovecraft, The Call of Cthulhu
Scorpion 316 Posted: 1/3/2010 8:00:25 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 257
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
[Spoiler for Occultist Spells!, click to show]Name: Steel to Sand
Target: One Foe
Effect: Uses the DEF of your foe against him + your MATK power to deal critical damage. (The math for this one is all on you, Ogor.)
Flavor: Silly armored person is silly. And dead.
Class: Occultist
SP: 20

Name: Truth or Fiction?
Target: One Foe
Effect: Distract your foes with decades of lost knowledge, forcing them to lose all their SP. (Success chance could go off of your MATK vs their MDEF and some random number. If it fails, you lose all of your SP instead.)
Flavor: Are you really alive? Are you sure?
Class: Occultist
SP: 50

Name: Lost Touch
Target: One Ally
Effect: Heals 5%, 10%, or 20% of your ally's HP or randomly kills them.
Flavor: This could be a good touch... or a very bad one.
Class: Occultist
SP: 20

Name: Thread of Life
Target: One Ally or All Allies
Effect: Kill yourself to revive either one or all allies using lost arts.
Flavor: Suicide is life!
Class: Occultist
SP: All
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Yeah, I realize a few of these could be for other classes, but with a name like Occultist there's not a lot to work with that couldn't fall under something else. >_> It's a very vague name.
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Scorpion 316 Posted: 1/3/2010 8:01:20 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 258
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Sounds about right. That's 3.3% of the total you need to gain a level and those things all suck anyway. >_>

It takes more effort to kill that than it does a group of Squirrels and the Squirrels pay out better EXP. >_> It's sad, but true. The fish should be more EXP like Kenri said.
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"Enough is enough! I have had it with these monkey-fighting snakes on this Monday-to-Friday plane!" - TV Edited Snakes on a Plane
Ogordemir99 Posted: 1/3/2010 8:02:29 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 259
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Scorp: Note that Occultist is Tier IX, so designing spells for it at this point seems ineffective.

It takes more effort to kill that than it does a group of Squirrels and the Squirrels pay out better EXP. >_> It's sad, but true. The fish should be more EXP like Kenri said.

Hm, OK. I'll slightly increase their exp and slightly decrease the Squirrel/Beaver exps.
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~ Ogordemir ~
"The sciences have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." ~ H.P Lovecraft, The Call of Cthulhu
Scorpion 316 Posted: 1/3/2010 8:02:50 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 260
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Scorp: Note that Occultist is Tier IX, so designing spells for it at this point seems ineffective.

I have one and it needs spells. This is reason enough. >_>
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"Enough is enough! I have had it with these monkey-fighting snakes on this Monday-to-Friday plane!" - TV Edited Snakes on a Plane
Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 1/3/2010 8:04:29 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 261
Level: 43
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I could kill all your unequipped mounts for you. That would help. >_>

You could delete them entirely and give me the gold back for them, that would help the most. And nothing of value would be lost. <_<


Sounds about right. That's 3.3% of the total you need to gain a level and those things all suck anyway. >_>

But they can actually damage you. Squirrels can't. <_<

Edit: slow kenri is sloooooooooooooooooooooooow
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 1/3/2010 8:07:05 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 262
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
You could delete them entirely and give me the gold back for them, that would help the most. And nothing of value would be lost. <_<

You could drop them and lose all the gold you put into them! >_>

Also, I changed the exp that all those things give.
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~ Ogordemir ~
"The sciences have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." ~ H.P Lovecraft, The Call of Cthulhu
Scorpion 316 Posted: 1/3/2010 8:08:20 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 263
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
The fish are still giving horrendous EXP for the difficulty comparison, but they DO give more gold so... I can live with it until the Turtles return. >_>
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 1/3/2010 8:09:37 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 264
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
but they DO give more gold so

What? They should be giving less gold and more exp. >_>
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~ Ogordemir ~
"The sciences have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." ~ H.P Lovecraft, The Call of Cthulhu
Ogordemir99 Posted: 1/3/2010 8:11:24 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 265
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
You've earned 126 gold and 63 experience points.

Three sharks, a Bass, a Trout, and a Father Trout.
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~ Ogordemir ~
"The sciences have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." ~ H.P Lovecraft, The Call of Cthulhu
Scorpion 316 Posted: 1/3/2010 8:12:30 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 266
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
That's more gold than the Beavers were. >_>
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Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 1/3/2010 8:15:47 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 267
Level: 43
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You've earned 120 gold and 48 experience points.

1 Salmon, 1 Shark, 2 Squid, 1 Father Trout, 1 Octopus <_<
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Scorpion 316 Posted: 1/3/2010 8:18:00 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 268
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
I can't even level a level 1 there because he dies no matter what in my party of good characters. >_> That 4k EXP for no class thing to get level 2 is ridiculous.
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 1/3/2010 8:20:14 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 269
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Name: Steel to Sand
Target: One Foe
Effect: Uses the DEF of your foe against him your MATK power to deal critical damage. (The math for this one is all on you, Ogor.)
Flavor: Silly armored person is silly. And dead.
Class: Occultist
SP: 20


I like this effect for Caretaker, except with their weapon: fits the name, too.

Name: Truth or Fiction?
Target: One Foe
Effect: Distract your foes with decades of lost knowledge, forcing them to lose all their SP. (Success chance could go off of your MATK vs their MDEF and some random number. If it fails, you lose all of your SP instead.)
Flavor: Are you really alive? Are you sure?
Class: Occultist
SP: 50


I like this effect for Gambler.

Name: Lost Touch
Target: One Ally
Effect: Heals 5%, 10%, or 20% of your ally's HP or randomly kills them.
Flavor: This could be a good touch... or a very bad one.
Class: Occultist
SP: 20


This could go in Occultist, Ritualist, Sciomancer, or Soothsayer. >_>

Name: Thread of Life
Target: One Ally or All Allies
Effect: Kill yourself to revive either one or all allies using lost arts.
Flavor: Suicide is life!
Class: Occultist
SP: All


This looks like a Martyr effect.

1 Salmon, 1 Shark, 2 Squid, 1 Father Trout, 1 Octopus

Those guys all suck.

That 4k EXP for no class thing to get level 2 is ridiculous.

wait what
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~ Ogordemir ~
"The sciences have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." ~ H.P Lovecraft, The Call of Cthulhu
Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 1/3/2010 8:21:44 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 270
Level: 43
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Those guys all suck.

I thought Father Trout was the second strongest guy in the game. >_> (Okay third now that Judgmentwhore exists.)
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