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Ogordemir99 Posted: 8/24/2006 3:00:46 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 001
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
As you may know, my creative powers are painfully limited. As you also may know, classes suck without spells/items. This is why I need you. Come up with spells and weapons, and I'll add the ones I like.

For spells, I need:

Name
Casting Cost
Buying Cost
Level
Class
Targets
Effect

For weapons, I need:

Name
Buying Cost
Level
Class
Stats changes

Merci a bunch.
Scorpion 316 Posted: 8/24/2006 3:06:10 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 002
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Name: Soul Katana
Buying Cost: 7000
Level: 20
Class: Ninja
Stats Changes: +100 Attack +20 Speed

Level can be adjusted how you see fit really.

Name: Draconic Lance
Buying Cost: 9000
Level: 30
Class: Warrior/Dragoon
Stats Changes: +150 Attack -10 Defence +10 Speed

Again, adjust level how you see fit..
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"I'm weak to the finish 'cause AIDs beats me spinach, I'm Popeye the Dying Man.. *toot, toot, cough* - Popeye Drawn Together
Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 8/24/2006 3:12:36 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 003
Level: 43
Editor
Name: Butcher's Punch (or Transmutation Punch if that's too out of flavor >_>)
Casting Cost: 50?
Buying Cost: 500?
Level: 10+
Class: Warrior
Targets: One enemy
Effect: Instant kill on weaker enemies (transforms them into a butchershop)

Name: Spear of Destiny/Longinus' Spear/Ronginus' Spear/Holy Lance/Holy Spear/Lance of Longinus/Spear of Longinus/Lancea Longini/Spear Luin/Bleeding Lance (They all amount to the same basic idea >_>)
Buying Cost: 2000+
Level: 8?
Class: Pikeman
Stats changes: +150 HP, +100 ATK
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"I've seen her crying before. I heard the tortured crying of her heart. And to me... she sounded so lovable."

END OF [TAKE] - August, 2006
Scorpion 316 Posted: 8/24/2006 3:14:48 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 004
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Those are too strong for too little IMO, Kenri. >_> Of course, Ogor doesn't have to listen to me.
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"I'm weak to the finish 'cause AIDs beats me spinach, I'm Popeye the Dying Man.. *toot, toot, cough* - Popeye Drawn Together
Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 8/24/2006 3:18:33 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 005
Level: 43
Editor
I'm basing those on the items/spells from the Gamma, I haven't played the Beta enough to judge power levels. >_>

Name: Zanbatō Strike
Casting Cost: 30
Buying Cost: 300
Level: 7
Class: Soldier, Horseman (?)
Targets: One mount
Effect: Deals damage; if a mount is killed by this spell the rider is killed as well.

Edit: Well that character didn't come out too well. >_> "Zanbato Strike" then, I guess.
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"I've seen her crying before. I heard the tortured crying of her heart. And to me... she sounded so lovable."

END OF [TAKE] - August, 2006
Message last edited by Kenri of the Yuri on 8/23/2006 at 11:19:16 PM
Scorpion 316 Posted: 8/24/2006 3:19:57 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 006
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Well, all of the weapons Ogor has available right now are weak and require level 2 classes. >_> So I'd imagine if he put in the Spear you suggested, it'd be like 20,000 gold or level 40 due to the 150 HP addition as well as 100 Attack.
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"I'm weak to the finish 'cause AIDs beats me spinach, I'm Popeye the Dying Man.. *toot, toot, cough* - Popeye Drawn Together
Ogordemir99 Posted: 8/24/2006 3:20:30 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 007
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Name: Soul Katana
Buying Cost: 7000
Level: 20
Class: Ninja
Stats Changes: +100 Attack +20 Speed


Changes -

Class: Jonin; Speed: +100

Ninjas are too pathetic for that uber stuff.

Name: Draconic Lance
Buying Cost: 9000
Level: 30
Class: Warrior/Dragoon
Stats Changes: +150 Attack -10 Defence +10 Speed


Changes -

Class: Dragoon; Level: 20

Name: Butcher's Punch (or Transmutation Punch if that's too out of flavor >_>)
Casting Cost: 50?
Buying Cost: 500?
Level: 10+
Class: Warrior
Targets: One enemy
Effect: Instant kill on weaker enemies (transforms them into a butchershop)


Changes -

Casting Cost: 45; Buying Cost: 500; Level: 15; Effect: Kills enemies with HP < your ATK

Name: Spear of Destiny/Longinus' Spear/Ronginus' Spear/Holy Lance/Holy Spear/Lance of Longinus/Spear of Longinus/Lancea Longini/Spear Luin/Bleeding Lance (They all amount to the same basic idea >_>)
Buying Cost: 2000+
Level: 8?
Class: Pikeman
Stats changes: +150 HP, +100 ATK


Changes -

Name: Lancea Longini; Buying Cost: 10000; Class: Marshal or Paladin; Level: 25

Will code soon.
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Scorpion 316 Posted: 8/24/2006 3:20:49 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 008
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
I mean, let's face it.. Angels' Aria broke the Gamma version. Especially for how cheap it was.
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"I'm weak to the finish 'cause AIDs beats me spinach, I'm Popeye the Dying Man.. *toot, toot, cough* - Popeye Drawn Together
Ogordemir99 Posted: 8/24/2006 3:24:34 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 009
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Name: Zanbato Strike
Casting Cost: 30
Buying Cost: 300
Level: 7
Class: Soldier, Horseman (?)
Targets: One mount
Effect: Deals damage; if a mount is killed by this spell the rider is killed as well.


This works as written, though weird with horsemen. It would be PVP only, though, for a while, so I won't make it available in the Beta.

Those are too strong for too little IMO, Kenri. >_> Of course, Ogor doesn't have to listen to me.

Given that your stats won't be over, say, 200 on level 99 (not the max) if you have a well-rounded character, and I'm aiming for around 400, I don't mind powerful weapons for third-class characters. I might weaken them a bit, though, it they turn out to need it.

Well, all of the weapons Ogor has available right now are weak and require level 2 classes. >_> So I'd imagine if he put in the Spear you suggested, it'd be like 20,000 gold or level 40 due to the 150 HP addition as well as 100 Attack.

Maybe. >_>
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~ Ogordemir ~
Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.
"Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde
Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 8/24/2006 3:25:20 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 010
Level: 43
Editor
I'm hoping Marshal/Paladin are what Pikemen become, because it would bother me if a Pikeman couldn't use a lance. >_>
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"I've seen her crying before. I heard the tortured crying of her heart. And to me... she sounded so lovable."

END OF [TAKE] - August, 2006
Ogordemir99 Posted: 8/24/2006 3:26:00 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 011
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
I mean, let's face it.. Angels' Aria broke the Gamma version. Especially for how cheap it was.

That's a good point. However, you have to slog through fifty levels just to get a third- or mixed-class character, and then you have to pay a pile of money, and then you have to grow more levels, so that should be enough to balance these weapons.
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~ Ogordemir ~
Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.
"Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde
Scorpion 316 Posted: 8/24/2006 3:26:33 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 012
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Wow, I was like.. Half right. XD

Name: Golden Mace
Buying Cost: 50,000 (It's golden makes sense. >_>)
Level: 30
Class: Whatever comes after Cleric..
Stats changes: +100 SP, +200 Magic Attack, -40 Attack, +10 Speed (Easy to wield quickly. Kinda makes sense.)
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"I'm weak to the finish 'cause AIDs beats me spinach, I'm Popeye the Dying Man.. *toot, toot, cough* - Popeye Drawn Together
Ogordemir99 Posted: 8/24/2006 3:27:13 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 013
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
I'm hoping Marshal/Paladin are what Pikemen become, because it would bother me if a Pikeman couldn't use a lance. >_>

Pikeman + Most/all "Enlightened" classes (the magic-y ones) => Paladin

Marshal is Pikeman's third class.
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~ Ogordemir ~
Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.
"Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde
Ogordemir99 Posted: 8/24/2006 3:29:49 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 014
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Name: Golden Mace
Buying Cost: 50,000 (It's golden makes sense. >_>)
Level: 30
Class: Whatever comes after Cleric..
Stats changes: +100 SP, +200 Magic Attack, -40 Attack, +10 Speed (Easy to wield quickly. Kinda makes sense.)


Changes -

Class: M-/Patriarch; Stats: +80 SP, +120 MATK, -20 ATK, +20 SPD; Level: 20
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~ Ogordemir ~
Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.
"Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde
Scorpion 316 Posted: 8/24/2006 3:30:43 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 015
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Okay, that works. >_> If you changed the price I'd call shenanigans.
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"I'm weak to the finish 'cause AIDs beats me spinach, I'm Popeye the Dying Man.. *toot, toot, cough* - Popeye Drawn Together
Ogordemir99 Posted: 8/24/2006 3:32:16 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 016
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
The price seems fair. Gold is expensive!
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~ Ogordemir ~
Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.
"Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde
Scorpion 316 Posted: 8/24/2006 3:32:31 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 017
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Naturally!
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"I'm weak to the finish 'cause AIDs beats me spinach, I'm Popeye the Dying Man.. *toot, toot, cough* - Popeye Drawn Together
The Tiger Posted: 8/24/2006 4:24:06 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 018
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Name: Wooden Crossbow
Buying Cost: 40
Level: 1
Class: Archer
Stats changes: +10 Attack, +10 HP


Name: Wooden Shield Attachment (to be used with Wooden Crossbow)
Buying Cost: 15
Level: 1
Class: Archer
Stats changes: +10 Attack, -1 Speed, +10 HP, +15 defense


Name: Metal Crossbow
Buying Cost: 70
Level: 5
Class: Archer
Stats changes: +20 Attack, +10 HP


Name: Platinum Alloy Shield Upgrade
Buying Cost: 50
Level: 5
Class: Archer
Stats changes: -5 Speed, +10 HP, +40 defense


Name: Uranium-tipped Arrows
Buying Cost: 70
Level: 10
Class: Archer
Stats changes: +25 Attack, +10 HP


Name: Archer's Slippers
Buying Cost: 150
Level: 7
Class: Archer
Stats changes: +40 Speed


Name: Archer's Wings
Buying Cost: 350
Level: 15
Class: Archer
Stats changes: +80 Speed


Name: Archer's Jet Pack
Buying Cost: 750
Level: 20
Class: Archer
Stats changes: +170 Speed, +40 HP, +80 Attack

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Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 8/24/2006 5:14:46 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 019
Level: 43
Editor
*downvotes the Jet Pack*
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"I've seen her crying before. I heard the tortured crying of her heart. And to me... she sounded so lovable."

END OF [TAKE] - August, 2006
Ogordemir99 Posted: 8/24/2006 6:43:22 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 020
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Ditto.
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~ Ogordemir ~
Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.
"Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde
The Tiger Posted: 8/24/2006 7:23:29 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 021
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Dictionay.com gives no syn. for wings....<_<

Used since there needed to be something stronger than wings. Feel free to suggest a better word.

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Ogordemir99 Posted: 8/24/2006 7:59:58 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 022
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Why do we need something stronger than wings? Wings are a type of weapon, as is, say, a sword. Do we need something stronger than a sword? Or do we need a stronger sword?
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~ Ogordemir ~
Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.
"Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde
Scorpion 316 Posted: 8/24/2006 10:03:49 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 023
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
I downvote the Uranium-tipped arrows too. Somehow that just seems ..wrong, and I don't think it's just because of the HP boost. Seriously, how the hell does an arrow give HP? On an actual weapon could make sense, due to the defence provided by it. An arrow can't be used defensively.

I agree with Ogor's statement on the jetpack too.

Technically speaking, the wooden shield to be used with the crossbow would be a buckler actually, since they're small and light. However, it would only give about 10 defence, and there's honestly no way in hell it'd be an attack booster.

If you ask me, you went a little crazy with the HP boosts on everything.. but that's just my opinion. Only armor/shields should really give HP, but I fail to see how arrows are even remotely feasable, but a sword could make sense as long as it wasn't more than 10 HP for an ordinary long sword and like 15 for a large blade sword.
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"I'm weak to the finish 'cause AIDs beats me spinach, I'm Popeye the Dying Man.. *toot, toot, cough* - Popeye Drawn Together
Ogordemir99 Posted: 8/24/2006 10:23:21 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 024
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
An arrow can't be used defensively.

It can if you're up against a gerbil!

Also, bows add defense. The logic is that they allow you to stand apart from the action and avoid getting hit with the full force of attacks.

UPDATE -

With the exception of Zanbato Strike and Pavel's stuff, everything has been added, albeit with a few changes. I've also added Noble Katana, Sterling Wakizashi, Berserk (Warrior spell), and Stealth (Assassin spell), with more to come.
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~ Ogordemir ~
Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.
"Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde
Message last edited by Silvas on 8/24/2006 at 09:26:35 AM
Scorpion 316 Posted: 8/24/2006 4:09:45 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 025
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Oh, I know the bows and crossbows would. However, the boosts he had on those weren't as dramatic as the other stuff.
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"I'm weak to the finish 'cause AIDs beats me spinach, I'm Popeye the Dying Man.. *toot, toot, cough* - Popeye Drawn Together
The Tiger Posted: 8/24/2006 6:59:13 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 026
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
...why does everything I write have to be over-analyzed and destroyed?

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Scorpion 316 Posted: 8/24/2006 7:34:32 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 027
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Because this is for a game so that requires it to be over-analyzed?

That's at least a reason for this case.
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"I'm weak to the finish 'cause AIDs beats me spinach, I'm Popeye the Dying Man.. *toot, toot, cough* - Popeye Drawn Together
Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 8/24/2006 9:58:56 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 028
Level: 43
Editor
Dictionay.com gives no syn. for wings....<_<

Name: Whalebone Glider
Cost: 25,000
Class: Sniper (Whatever archer becomes >_>)
Level: 40
Boosts: Speed +180, HP +20, ATK +10, DEF +20

It's no Ornithopter, but then, I'm no Urza. =/
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"I've seen her crying before. I heard the tortured crying of her heart. And to me... she sounded so lovable."

END OF [TAKE] - August, 2006
Message last edited by Kenri of the Yuri on 8/24/2006 at 06:00:22 PM
Ogordemir99 Posted: 8/24/2006 11:05:58 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 029
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Name: Ornithopter
Cost: 0
Class: Anybody off the Street
Level: 0
Boosts: HP +1

Look at me! I'm Urza and Mishra!
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~ Ogordemir ~
Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.
"Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde
Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 8/25/2006 12:05:53 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 030
Level: 43
Editor
XD
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"I've seen her crying before. I heard the tortured crying of her heart. And to me... she sounded so lovable."

END OF [TAKE] - August, 2006
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