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xp1337 Posted: 8/28/2006 11:05:45 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 451
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
This may not be a bug, and it certainly is fun.

Once you class change, and are set to Level 1 of the new class (Marksman) in my case. It becomes very easy to level up, because the experience formula is again working off of the low level number.

So, it went from (all needed EXP, approximately) 2300 EXP, 2400 EXP, 100 EXP, 200 EXP.

Might be intentional, but just letting you know.
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Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 8/28/2006 11:16:08 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 452
Level: 43
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That is intentional, apparently.

...And it gives me an idea. Which I will try tomorrow.
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xp1337 Posted: 8/28/2006 11:20:13 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 453
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
That is intentional, apparently.

I could certainly see if you chose another base class when you CC, but Marksaman is like a Advanced Class.

Like I said, I don't mind at all. >_>
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 8/28/2006 12:04:25 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 454
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
It's intentional, and I don't mind it for advanced classes. Going all-out in one class deserves some sort of benefit.
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The Tiger Posted: 8/28/2006 2:38:45 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 455
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
w00t on that part. Otherwise, changing classes would be bad thing...o_0

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Scorpion 316 Posted: 8/28/2006 6:07:23 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 456
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Not really. Even if it was the other way, changing classes = good thing due to the boosts they can get over the other ones.
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Link Dude Posted: 8/28/2006 6:15:29 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 457
Level: 7
Provisional
Do just your allies go back to level one?
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xp1337 Posted: 8/28/2006 6:31:17 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 458
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
When you class change? No, any class change sends that character back to 1.

Whether it be the main character or an ally.
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Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 8/28/2006 10:53:04 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 459
Level: 43
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I just feel like throwing these out there, as I was thinking about classes. Use them or don't. <_<

Hunter -> Slayer -> Executioner

Uses light armor (leather, maybe) and semi-ranged/melee weapons meant for quick kills (whips, rapiers, vorpal weapons, throwing axes, throwing daggers). Spells are generally effective only against monsters (not other humans/elves/spirits/orcs) and includes techniques such as Capturing enemies (removing them from combat), OHKOs, and various anti-stronger enemy spells (a better Counterdefend for Marutin, a spell that inflicts extra damage against Gods for Poseidon/any future God monsters).

Vigilante -> Hero -> Legend

Would use insanely powerful spells and weapons, however, the "curve" would be much greater than for any other class. Like, they get no weapons at all until they're Heroes and nothing good until they're level 25 Heroes. >_> Spells would be stuff like Judgment, Meteor, Holy (not necessarily these names, just that 'style' of spell). Weapons would be mythical swords like Excalibur, Durendal, Bulmung, Claiomh Solais, Hrunting, etc.

Exile -> Villain -> Demon

Would use powerful black magic and so forth. I only suggest this because I like the option of an evil/dark route in games.
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END OF [TAKE] - August, 2006
Ogordemir99 Posted: 8/28/2006 11:11:38 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 460
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
I might use those as special classes.
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xp1337 Posted: 8/28/2006 11:45:33 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 461
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Since it will likely be a while before I can test this theory...

I'll just toss it out there.

Say you go to an Advanced Class. Wizard, in this case. If you try to learn a spell from the Weaver Class - Incinerate, it tells you you must be Level 16.

However, since Wizard is in a sense L26 Weaver, you'd imagine it would be capable of learning it.

Furthermore, the part I can't test, is that even if I got to Level 16 as a Wizard, I'm thinking it would tell me I'm the wrong class.

=(
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xp1337 Posted: 8/28/2006 11:50:13 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 462
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Also, the "zomg deplete stats" glitch occurred again.

Again, also to BM. His MATK dropped from what should be 106 (It was 75, but the Wizard Staff I equipped should have knocked it up to 106.) to 40.

However, this time I think I can come as close as possible to confirming the source as the double level-up thing. Otherwise, it's one heck of a coincidence.

My main character and BM leveled up off the same battle. (My character to L13 Marksman, BM to L25 Weaver).
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xp1337 Posted: 8/28/2006 11:53:52 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 463
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Or maybe...

It was a drop of 35 from the 75 I had as a Weaver with the Staff of Moderate Power.

It's possible I guess that it doesn't recognize the stat-bonus from the Wizard Staff and so it's not adding to my MATK Stat.

Aside from fitting with the numbers, my other reason for thinking this is that in the Item Screen, anything with an apostrophe, which to me is just the Levi's and Wizard's Staff, is rendered as "Wizard/'s Staff" or "Levi/'s", and when I click the name on the item screen, to display the pop-up with the info, it comes up blank. It shouldn't be an error with that function because it works normally for all my other equipment.
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Scorpion 316 Posted: 8/28/2006 11:59:34 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 464
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
I still say Legend is stupid to use as a class name..

There has to be a better word out there, Kenri! Find it!
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 8/29/2006 12:02:37 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 465
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Level Requirement problem: I figured that a lvl 6 Wizard is actually an advanced Weaver, but that's not quite the way the level requirement works. Class and level and treated as two entirely different entities when it comes to conditions for learning/equipping things. Changing it would be rather complex.

Wizard learning Weaver spells: This should be possible under the current system. Former classes are archived and checked when verifying requirements.

Apostrophe problem: Yeah, that's an annoying problem. :\
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xp1337 Posted: 8/29/2006 12:05:18 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 466
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
That "/" shows up doesn't annoy me.

That my BM just dropped a bunch of MATK is what annoys me. =(
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 8/29/2006 12:08:12 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 467
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Make sure Wizard's Staff is equipped. I'll up your MATK to 106 and look into the glitch.
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xp1337 Posted: 8/29/2006 12:11:59 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 468
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Says it is equipped.

Wouldn't let me unequip it though. Or equip a different one.
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 8/29/2006 12:15:38 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 469
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
That apostrophe is the root cause of the problem.

Try now.
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Message last edited by Silvas on 8/28/2006 at 08:16:29 PM
Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 8/29/2006 1:19:09 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 470
Level: 43
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I still say Legend is stupid to use as a class name..

I like it. =(

Vigilante -> Hero -> Gallant? Champion? (I personally like gallant just because it isn't overused, but meh.)

Also, more brainstorming!

Pirate -> Cutthroat -> Rogue
Seafarer -> Captain -> Commodore
Samurai -> Ronin -> Lord
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END OF [TAKE] - August, 2006
Scorpion 316 Posted: 8/29/2006 1:30:08 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 471
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Gallant or Champion sounds nice. >_> I have no complaints.
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 8/29/2006 1:44:22 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 472
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Gallant is uber.
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Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.
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xp1337 Posted: 8/30/2006 12:26:59 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 473
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
...I just got 11 Gold and 8 EXP for defeating MK and 2 Giant Octopi.

...Sadly, I'm thinking this is intentional and based off the levels of your party.

=(
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 8/30/2006 12:29:41 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 474
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Yes, I forgot to point that out: third level characters get 1/10 the experience from battles in fields below field 100. This is because I can't keep up with you people. :\
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Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.
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xp1337 Posted: 8/30/2006 12:31:02 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 475
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Damn. Now I need to find a new place to power-level in. =(
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xp1337 Posted: 8/30/2006 12:42:14 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 476
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Well, perhaps not. After fully explording from 100 (And making a map on paper of it), there's only one Battle, a bunch of dead-ends, two of which say they go to places, but said places don't exist, and nothing else.

>_>
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xp1337: Your former local puppet admin.
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xp1337 Posted: 8/30/2006 12:43:50 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 477
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Another addition to that.

I can't pwer-level there because I can't damage Martuin. Well, maybe BM could, but seeing as how he was drained 158 MP on Turn 1...

I also didn't want to wait around until Poison got Martuin.
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 8/30/2006 12:55:25 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 478
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
He would have killed you before then.

Anyway, I'll be adding things to that area, probably tonight. My internet is going up and down like a rollar coaster today, so I haven't really gotten anything done.
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Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.
"Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde
xp1337 Posted: 8/30/2006 1:22:13 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 479
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Can't believe I forgot to mention it before.

I'm not sure if this too, is intentional, but the 10% thing also applies to gold.
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Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 8/30/2006 1:30:55 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 480
Level: 43
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KenriofDarkness: I didn't even attack Mizu, and I won the match.
KenriofDarkness: XD
VGMaster01: XD
VGMaster01: A trout attacked him from behind?
KenriofDarkness: Seriously, I defended with myself, my Drake, and Cougar, and Popeye used Recklessness.
KenriofDarkness: And I clicked submit.
KenriofDarkness: And it brought me to the exp/gold page.

Can we do that for all my matches plix?
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