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Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 11/21/2006 11:09:03 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 121
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XD

That's possibly more awesome than the broken version of the spell.
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 11/21/2006 11:09:08 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 122
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Oh.

...Yeah, that's predictable. >_>
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xp1337 Posted: 11/21/2006 11:09:57 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 123
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BUTCHERSHOP QUEEN ATTACKED ME?!

Oh yes
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Scorpion 316 Posted: 11/21/2006 11:10:57 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 124
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XD

That's possibly more awesome than the broken version of the spell.


Especially since once I actually kill the Butchershop'd Queen I still get my EXP despite using the spell. >_>
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Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 11/21/2006 11:12:09 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 125
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The EXP/Gold-giving Butcher Punch should be an update version of the spell. We'll call it Super Butcher Punch. >_>

Anyway, that would be a good spell for Berserkers.


=(

I agree, but that means Popeye won't be able to use it.

Although I'm happy with my basic version, but still.
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 11/21/2006 11:15:12 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 126
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I think... I fixed it. As soon as the server accepts my update. >_>
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Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 11/21/2006 11:15:57 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 127
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Unless Berserker is a special class instead of a mixed class.

Hmm...

I AM STRUCK WITH INSPIRATION!

This idea is so good an idiot could have thought of it.

If your class is Warlord/Commander/maybe Hussar or Marshal and your ATK > all your other stats divided by 2, you can promote to Berserker!

Oh no
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 11/21/2006 11:16:20 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 128
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Genius!
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 11/21/2006 11:18:45 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 129
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...You know, I should make an actual Gate of Destiny spell for Paladins with a chance to eat your opposing team, but in turn it kills the Paladin casting it and takes all SP from every other party member if it actually works. The chance of it working would only be 5% though. It'd also go before any other attacks. The main downside is that if it doesn't activate the entire party skips a turn, not just the Paladin.

I think you could make that the secondary effect and make the primary effect some sort of single-target damage spell. After all, the only time Gate of Destiny was ever used to immediately do away with an enemy was against Piedmon; the rest of the times it was just some weird, psychedelic disco ball spell thing.
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Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 11/21/2006 11:30:00 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 130
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I think you could make that the secondary effect and make the primary effect some sort of single-target damage spell. After all, the only time Gate of Destiny was ever used to immediately do away with an enemy was against Piedmon; the rest of the times it was just some weird, psychedelic disco ball spell thing.

Events post-Season 1 didn't actually happen. <_<

Not to step on your toes, Scorp, but I decided to take this idea and run with it. Feel free to fix to your tastes (both of you >_>).

Name: Heaven's Passage
SP Cost: 100
Cost: 12,000
Level: 25
Tier: Paladin
Targets: One enemy
Description: The white light seen before dying can be used by experienced Paladins as a distraction.
Effect: Inflicts MATK + ATK/2 = DMG. 10% chance of OHKOing both the caster and the entire opposing team. If this effect happens, EXP/Gold are not received.
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Scorpion 316 Posted: 11/21/2006 11:35:41 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 131
Level: 49
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=(

I agree, but that means Popeye won't be able to use it.

Although I'm happy with my basic version, but still.


It also means Lynx won't be able to use it. But, oh well. I'll have my Widening Slash and Door of Heavenly Light soon. >_> I won't miss it much since I only just started toying with it anyway. <_<

On the subject of Berserker, I say it should be a hybrid class. That's the most balanced way. <_<

I think you could make that the secondary effect and make the primary effect some sort of single-target damage spell. After all, the only time Gate of Destiny was ever used to immediately do away with an enemy was against Piedmon; the rest of the times it was just some weird, psychedelic disco ball spell thing.

Well, that spell was entirely a joke, Ogor. >_> I'll think about it though. I just feel it might be a bit too broken, which is why I said that as a joke during the Butcher Shop conversation. Either way, I'll make an alternate powerful spell for Paladins eventually. I just need to get back some more inspiration first and get them some more lower level spells. We've got an offensive spell, a group offensive skill, and a reviving spell so far. Now they just need a healing spell and they'll be set to get more advanced techniques.

Events post-Season 1 didn't actually happen. <_<

More like Season 3 and 4 didn't happen. >_> 02 was alright, just not as good as 01.

Yes, I realize Kenri already posted the spell.. but I didn't feel like going back and erasing that. >_>
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Scorpion 316 Posted: 11/21/2006 11:38:19 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 132
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Ogor, Butcher Shop is still broken. The red battle bar turns green and it won't let me advance further unless I run away. There's also no flavor text or any record of what was done after I selected Butcher Shop and hit submit. Actually, nothing was done at all. >_>
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Scorpion 316 Posted: 11/21/2006 11:39:01 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 133
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...No, it's not just Butcher Shop. I can't even Attack without it doing that.
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xp1337 Posted: 11/21/2006 11:41:36 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 134
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Wreath of Forlorn still works!

...But that's it. >_>
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Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 11/21/2006 11:42:26 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 135
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On the subject of Berserker, I say it should be a hybrid class. That's the most balanced way. <_<

The more I think about it, the more I think Berserker should be a special class. Just because of the cool requirements it could have. Besides the ATK > all your other stats, alternate requirements I thought of were:

Be a Warlord/Commander/Marshal(?)/Hussar(?) and

-Have killed 50,000 enemies (your team)
-Be able to OHKO yourself with a basic attack
-Have invested at least 90% of your stat points in ATK
-Have killed 3,000 of each enemy (except Poseidon)

More like Season 3 and 4 didn't happen. >_> 02 was alright, just not as good as 01.

I suppose I can agree with that.
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 11/21/2006 11:42:30 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 136
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Ah, well, that's fine, because I'm closing shop while I test the update. >_>
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 11/21/2006 11:43:45 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 137
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More like Season 3 and 4 didn't happen. >_> 02 was alright, just not as good as 01.

If S2 was that crap with the eggs... Then no. Just no.
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Scorpion 316 Posted: 11/21/2006 11:44:16 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 138
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-Have killed 50,000 enemies (your team)
-Be able to OHKO yourself with a basic attack
-Have invested at least 90% of your stat points in ATK
-Have killed 3,000 of each enemy (except Poseidon)


If it's 1, 4, AND 2 combined I can agree. Otherwise, I still think hybrid is best. >_>
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Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 11/21/2006 11:45:45 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 139
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If it's 1, 4, AND 2 combined I can agree. Otherwise, I still think hybrid is best. >_>

Well, I was suggesting any of those by themselves, but this works too. Hell, make it 1, 2, 4, AND 0.
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Scorpion 316 Posted: 11/21/2006 11:49:08 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 140
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If S2 was that crap with the eggs... Then no. Just no.

I don't see any real problem with it aside from a few minor issues. Season 03 on the other hand tried to be too many things at once and bombed. Season 04 was.. well, there's too many issues to single out. The premise was alright the execution was horrid.

Well, I was suggesting any of those by themselves, but this works too. Hell, make it 1, 2, 4, AND 0.

Eh, 0 isn't really important. I'd say any class that achieves the requirements should be able to get to it.
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Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 11/21/2006 12:01:57 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 141
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Eh, 0 isn't really important. I'd say any class that achieves the requirements should be able to get to it.

0 is ATK > all other stats combined. >_>

I'm now thinking the numbers for enemies killed are a bit steep, though. Maybe 10,000 total/1,000 each is more reasonable.
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Scorpion 316 Posted: 11/21/2006 1:37:27 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 142
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They should be steep for Berserker. >_>

0 is ATK > all other stats combined. >_>

Well, it shouldn't be. Considering requirement 0 would be the Class requirement. >_>
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 11/21/2006 8:28:50 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 143
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I don't see any real problem with it aside from a few minor issues.

Everything involving the Digimon Master was horrible. Seriously, that guy was insufferable, and so were the vast majority of the saps they chose to be the new Digidestined or somesuch. Only Kari and her boyfriend-who-isn't-a-boyfriend weren't totally painful.
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Scorpion 316 Posted: 11/21/2006 9:11:21 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 144
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Everything involving the Digimon Master was horrible. Seriously, that guy was insufferable, and so were the vast majority of the saps they chose to be the new Digidestined or somesuch. Only Kari and her boyfriend-who-isn't-a-boyfriend weren't totally painful.

Well, in the long run the Digimon Kaiser was a minor issue. Sure, he was a plot point, but even after Ken became a good guy there was a good bit of the season left. Not to mention Paildramon and Imperialdramon both give the season several dozen merit points. Hell, even Black War Greymon can give it quite a lot if you discount his emo scenes and just focus on his 'roid rage moments.

Also, it's not like the original Digidestined team wasn't without it's faults either y'know. Hell, that's part of the reason they actually work. They're not all virtually the same person but with a slight tweak here and there.

...Wait, why are we discussing this again?
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 11/21/2006 9:50:52 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 145
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Well, in the long run the Digimon Kaiser was a minor issue. Sure, he was a plot point, but even after Ken became a good guy there was a good bit of the season left. Not to mention Paildramon and Imperialdramon both give the season several dozen merit points. Hell, even Black War Greymon can give it quite a lot if you discount his emo scenes and just focus on his 'roid rage moments.

All those Digimon are so awesome I've already forgotten them again. >_> The Digimon Emperor (I remembered his title!) put me off quite quickly that season.

Also, it's not like the original Digidestined team wasn't without it's faults either y'know. Hell, that's part of the reason they actually work. They're not all virtually the same person but with a slight tweak here and there.

Yes, but that same person wasn't a whiny, annoying, stupid piece of crap, which appears to have been the model for S2. Well, except for that one guy with Garuruman. He was the very foundation of the emo persona.

...Wait, why are we discussing this again?

I've no idea.
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Scorpion 316 Posted: 11/21/2006 9:59:07 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 146
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Yes, but that same person wasn't a whiny, annoying, stupid piece of crap, which appears to have been the model for S2. Well, except for that one guy with Garurumon. He was the very foundation of the emo persona.

Yes, Matt was horribly emo. He even got a punk rock band in 02. Proving to emo kids everywhere that if you whine hard enough your dreams of being in a sucky band will come true.

All those Digimon are so awesome I've already forgotten them again. >_> The Digimon Emperor (I remembered his title!) put me off quite quickly that season.


Yes.. The whole Digimon Kaiser angle was rather underwhelming for the beginning of the season, like I said. However, then came along the necrophiliac spider-woman and her mummified fuck buddy. >_>

I've no idea.

At least I'm not alone. >_>
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Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 11/21/2006 10:27:49 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 147
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They should be steep for Berserker. >_>

...Why? The requirement for Necromancer is "find the weird old woman who changes you to a necromancer". Let's be consistent here, people. <_<

And Matt was awesome, you guys suck. >_>
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 11/21/2006 10:34:44 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 148
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Yes.. The whole Digimon Kaiser angle was rather underwhelming for the beginning of the season, like I said. However, then came along the necrophiliac spider-woman and her mummified fuck buddy. >_>

Yes, they were pretty neat, but it's not much of a show when you have to keep rooting for the bad guys.

...Why? The requirement for Necromancer is "find the weird old woman who changes you to a necromancer". Let's be consistent here, people. <_<

Class II special classes are the difficult ones. I don't think Berserker merits such ridiculous requirements.

And Matt was awesome, you guys suck. >_>

No, Matt was horrible. Although you're not the only person I know who was a big fan, so at least you have the satisfaction of knowing you're not the only misguided person.
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Scorpion 316 Posted: 11/21/2006 10:46:47 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 149
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Bah, Ogor already got to it. >_>

And Matt was awesome, you guys suck. >_>

He's an easy target for reasons that would require him to not be so awesome. >_>;
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Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 11/22/2006 12:38:03 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 150
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Class II special classes are the difficult ones. I don't think Berserker merits such ridiculous requirements.

Agreed.

No, Matt was horrible. Although you're not the only person I know who was a big fan, so at least you have the satisfaction of knowing you're not the only misguided person.

Well, I wouldn't say I'm a big fan of Matt.

What's his face > Teenage Kari > Teenage TK > Izzy > Kari > TK > Matt > Tai = Joe > Ken > Cody = Yolei = Mimi > Sora > Davis

Did I get them all? <_< What's his face is the guy from the movie, with Terriermon and... Lopmon, I think.
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