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| Scorpion 316 | Posted: 11/26/2006 12:46:02 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 211 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Well, I was thinking from the beginning about giving them knuckle weapons and other equipment that give ATK and likely SP boosts. So, yeah. >_> +++ http://i15.tinypic.com/4c1rtwh.jpg If only the Catholics would really see the light.. *sigh* |
| Ogordemir99 | Posted: 11/26/2006 12:52:46 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 212 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Knuckle weapons are fine, but I suggest we keep the selection at a minimum and the attack bonuses small. This should let the class focus on the "martial arts" aspect more than the "lol i hav 2 ft long dagurz on mai fingurz" aspect. ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt. "Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde |
| Scorpion 316 | Posted: 11/26/2006 1:26:26 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 213 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Well, I intended to do that, Ogor. The boosts on their other equipment and their spell/skill strength would make up for it. The knuckles themselves wouldn't have as high power compared to other class weapons, although any clawed knuckle would have to have a bit more of an attack boost than most of the others, and claws should likely be reserved for the final class stage. However, even the claws will come out weaker than other final class weapons attack wise. +++ http://i15.tinypic.com/4c1rtwh.jpg If only the Catholics would really see the light.. *sigh* |
| Ogordemir99 | Posted: 11/26/2006 2:15:56 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 214 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Sounds like a plan. ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt. "Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde |
| Scorpion 316 | Posted: 11/26/2006 2:23:42 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 215 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Indeed it does. Now it's just a matter of drawing straws to decide whose responsibility it is to pump out class items. <_< +++ http://i15.tinypic.com/4c1rtwh.jpg If only the Catholics would really see the light.. *sigh* |
| Ogordemir99 | Posted: 11/26/2006 2:26:00 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 216 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | I thought Kenri already claimed that. >_> ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt. "Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde |
| Scorpion 316 | Posted: 11/26/2006 2:35:03 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 217 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Upon looking in the Discussion Topic and here, no one claimed it from what I can see. >_> +++ http://i15.tinypic.com/4c1rtwh.jpg If only the Catholics would really see the light.. *sigh* |
| Ogordemir99 | Posted: 11/26/2006 2:37:43 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 218 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Ah. I suggest you FIGHT TO THE DEATH~! Or flip a coin or something. ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt. "Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde |
| Scorpion 316 | Posted: 11/26/2006 2:40:15 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 219 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Well, we'll just have to wait and see what Kenri wants to do. >_> +++ http://i15.tinypic.com/4c1rtwh.jpg If only the Catholics would really see the light.. *sigh* |
| xp1337 | Posted: 11/26/2006 2:40:51 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 220 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | For the record, I support the former option. It'll be like Darwin in action, only we have to make the assumption that the better creative skills decides the winner... and not anything else. --- xp1337: Your former local puppet admin. "This is the light of my soul, a sacred territory upon which no one may intrude." - Kaworu, NGE. |
| Ogordemir99 | Posted: 11/26/2006 2:41:37 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 221 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | But who would decide who has the better skills? I'm far too stupid. Look what I did with Fimbulvinter. >_> ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt. "Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde |
| xp1337 | Posted: 11/26/2006 2:43:00 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 222 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | The battle would, Ogor! We'll just credit the victor's victory on the basis that he had more "mad skillz" than his opponent. --- xp1337: Your former local puppet admin. "This is the light of my soul, a sacred territory upon which no one may intrude." - Kaworu, NGE. |
| Ogordemir99 | Posted: 11/26/2006 2:44:17 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 223 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | But... but... The idea of "mad skillz" is far too nebulous! I could mis-attribute the madness! ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt. "Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde |
| xp1337 | Posted: 11/26/2006 2:45:10 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 224 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Which is why we have the battle. If only one can survive there won't be any chance for confus-Hmm. I think I see the problem. >_> --- xp1337: Your former local puppet admin. "This is the light of my soul, a sacred territory upon which no one may intrude." - Kaworu, NGE. |
| Ogordemir99 | Posted: 11/26/2006 2:49:11 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 225 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Good, because I'm too thick to explain it. ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt. "Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde |
| Scorpion 316 | Posted: 11/26/2006 2:51:21 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 226 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | DID SOMEONE SAY DARWIN~?! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/Scorpion316/Random%20Stuff/darwin.gif ... <_< +++ http://i15.tinypic.com/4c1rtwh.jpg If only the Catholics would really see the light.. *sigh* |
| Kenri of the Yuri | Posted: 11/27/2006 5:53:06 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 227 |
| Level: 43 Editor | Scorp, I'm more than willing to take the Martial Artist class tree unless you actually want it. If you do, then we'll work something out. In the mean time... -Completed 8 Berserker equipment. -5 equipment and 2 spells for Tamers. -6 equipment for Bard/Dancers (plus the 6 spells I already made). -4 equipment for Apprentices. I'm gonna start working on their later stages soon, but before that... Are there any items or spells that need to be made for the original classes I'm in charge of? (Archer, Cleric, Ninja, Pikeman, Spiremage, and Horseman) --- "If I don't live diligently, I can't die. So I will fight. Even if... I have no chance of winning." ~Shinji Ikari, RE-TAKE |
| Ogordemir99 | Posted: 11/27/2006 6:03:34 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 228 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Are there any items or spells that need to be made for the original classes I'm in charge of? (Archer, Cleric, Ninja, Pikeman, Spiremage, and Horseman) Eventually, yes, but now I'm not very concerned about that now. -5 equipment and 2 spells for Tamers. What spells are these? ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt. "Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde |
| Kenri of the Yuri | Posted: 11/27/2006 6:19:14 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 229 |
| Level: 43 Editor | As with all my spells, they're completely bland and probably unbalanced! Name: Lifeforce Swap SP Cost: 75 Cost: 600 Level: 25 Tier: Tamer Targets: One animal ally (for now, just mounts and summons, I think, although I could be overlooking something) Description: (I can't think of anything witty for this) Effect: Swaps your current HP with the target's current HP. Name: Cobra Fang SP Cost: 15 Cost: 400 Level: 15 Tier: Tamer Targets: One enemy Description: The gift that keeps on giving. Effect: Damages the enemy and poisons them. --- "If I don't live diligently, I can't die. So I will fight. Even if... I have no chance of winning." ~Shinji Ikari, RE-TAKE |
| Ogordemir99 | Posted: 11/27/2006 6:23:41 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 230 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Not unbalanced, although Lifeforce Swap is complex and not worth it. >_> ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt. "Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde Message last edited by Silvas on 11/27/2006 at 01:23:50 AM |
| Kenri of the Yuri | Posted: 11/27/2006 6:26:54 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 231 |
| Level: 43 Editor | True. My heart wasn't really in that one. <_< --- "If I don't live diligently, I can't die. So I will fight. Even if... I have no chance of winning." ~Shinji Ikari, RE-TAKE |
| Kenri of the Yuri | Posted: 11/27/2006 11:21:49 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 232 |
| Level: 43 Editor | omg big list of crap Name: Crusader's Spontoon Type: Weapon Cost: 17,500 Level: 15 Tier: Hussar Stats changes: +60 SP, +150 ATK Description: A distinguished hussar deserves a weapon that shines as bright as they do. Name: Volatile Axe Type: Weapon Cost: 15,000 Level: 5 Tier: Berserker Stats changes: +160 ATK, -40 DEF (If possible, gives the user poison at the start of every battle) Description: This axe explodes when striking armor. Also the handle is a blade. Also the blade-handle is poisoned. Enjoy! Name: BFA Type: Weapon Cost: 40,000 Level: 30 Tier: Berserker Stats changes: +600 ATK, -200 DEF, -200 MDEF, -300 SPD Description: Before God said "Let there be light", he had to move this axe the hell out of the way. Name: Blazing Armor Type: Armor Cost: 500 Level: 1 Tier: Berserker Stats changes: +50 ATK (if possible, it should deal 1/16th or so damage to the user every turn) Description: Don't you look hot. Name: Concussion Armor Type: Armor Cost: 6,000 Level: 20 Tier: Berserker Stats changes: +50 HP, +90 ATK (again, if possible, it should deal 1/8th or so damage to the user every turn) Description: Go out with a bang. Name: Stylish Head Wound Type: Hat Cost: 10 Level: 1 Tier: Berserker Stats changes: -10 HP, +10 ATK Description: There's a reason it's cheap. Now hold still... Name: 50-Pound Gauntlet Type: Gloves Cost: 3,000 Level: 5 Tier: Berserker Stats changes: +50 ATK, -50 SPD Description: Too heavy? Then throw down the gauntlet. Hohohohoho. Name: Steel-Toed Boots Type: Boots Cost: 3,000 Level: 10 Tier: Berserker Stats changes: +20 ATK, -10 SPD Description: At least your toes are safe. Name: Traditional Loincloth Type: Leggings Cost: 10 Level: 25 Tier: Berserker Stats changes: None (adds a 1% chance of any non-boss foe skipping their turn) Description: This doesn't leave much to the imagination... Name: Super Butcher Punch SP Cost: 100 Cost: 2,000 Level: 1 Tier: Berserker Targets: One enemy Description: Transform the enemy into a butchershop, just like old times. Effect: The broken version of Butcher Punch Name: Seal Type: Weapon Cost: 250 Level: 2 Tier: Tamer Stats changes: +12 ATK Description: An unfortunate bit of irony: This weapon is a club. Name: Mongoose Type: Weapon Cost: 500 Level: 18 Tier: Tamer Stats changes: +15 ATK, +15 SPD Description: Jack be Nimble, Jack be quick... Name: Turtle Type: Armor Cost: 100 Level: 4 Tier: Tamer Stats changes: +15 DEF Description: Slow and steady... kind of sucks. Name: Crab Type: Gloves Cost: 50 Level: 7 Tier: Tamer Stats changes: +5 ATK Description: Little pinch? Name: Rabbit Type: Boots Cost: 300 Level: 15 Tier: Tamer Stats changes: +20 SPD Description: What's up, doc? Name: Cobra Fang SP Cost: 15 Cost: 400 Level: 15 Tier: Tamer Targets: One enemy Description: The gift that keeps on giving. Effect: Damages the enemy and poisons them. --- "If I don't live diligently, I can't die. So I will fight. Even if... I have no chance of winning." ~Shinji Ikari, RE-TAKE |
| Kenri of the Yuri | Posted: 11/27/2006 11:22:21 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 233 |
| Level: 43 Editor | omg big list of crap part 2 Name: Sweet Potato Ocarina Type: Weapon Cost: 60 Level: 1 Tier: Bard/Dancer Stats changes: +1 ATK, +5 DEF Description: Every bard's got to start somewhere. Preferrably somewhere else. Name: Piccolo Type: Weapon Cost: 600 Level: 17 Tier: Bard/Dancer Stats changes: +5 HP, +15 SP, +20 ATK Description: Contrary to what fanboys will tell you, every real bard knows that the Demon King version is superior. Name: Red Shawl Type: Scarf Cost: 300 Level: 6 Tier: Bard/Dancer Stats changes: +5 MDEF Description: Protects against slight breezes, moderate chills, and not much else. Name: Baladi Top Type: Armor Cost: 100 Level: 1 Tier: Bard/Dancer Stats changes: +5 DEF Description: It's only fair, since bards got all the weapons... Name: Zils Type: Weapon B Cost: 300 Level: 8 Tier: Bard/Dancer Stats changes: +5 SP, +2 ATK Description: Buh-dum bum psht. Name: Baladi Dress Type: Legging Cost: 800 Level: 15 Tier: Bard/Dancer Stats changes: +10 DEF, +10 MDEF Description: Well... at least it completes the outfit... Name: Dance of Encouragement SP Cost: 10 Cost: 100 Level: 3 Tier: Bard/Dancer Targets: One ally Description: Just seeing this dance makes you want to do your best. Effect: Grants a +10% ATK boost Name: Steadfast Tune SP Cost: 25 Cost: 700 Level: 10 Tier: Bard/Dancer Targets: Whole team Description: A tune that makes you stand firm and listen. Effect: Grants a +10% DEF boost. Name: Sawed in Half SP Cost: 50 Cost: 300 Level: 10 Tier: Magician Targets: One ally Description: And now my lovely volunteer will saw YOU in half. Effect: Cuts caster's current HP by half to provide an ATK boost equal to the amount of HP lost. (50 current HP cuts to 25 and gives a +25 boost.) Name: Disappearing Act SP Cost: 50 Cost: 750 Level: 20 Tier: Magician Targets: Self only Description: A magician never reveals his methods. Until his SP runs out. Effect: Basically a crappy version of Stealth Name: Dovecraft SP Cost: 70 Cost: 1,200 Level: 17 Tier: Magician Targets: Spell it resolves on Description: For my next trick, I'll need an ordinary spell. Effect: Counters the spell it resolves on, then creates an ally with HP equal to the casting cost of the spell. Name: Sword Swallowing SP Cost: 60 Cost: 1,500 Level: 5 Tier: Jester Targets: Self only Description: Gulp. Effect: Disarms self to provide an enchantment of the weapon's boost x2. (If your weapon boosted your ATK by 50, using this would remove the 50 then add 100) Name: Dagger Head Box SP Cost: 100 Cost: 30,000 Level: 25 Tier: Jester Targets: Self only Description: Now watch, as I am impaled by swords and vanish! Effect: Removes all of caster's weapons/armor/enchantments, but makes him/her untargetable until all other targets are dead. Name: Keikogi Type: Armor Cost: 200 Level: 1 Tier: Apprentice Stats changes: +10 DEF Description: What part of "practice clothes" is not self-explanatory? Name: Heavily Padded Gloves Type: Gloves Cost: 400 Level: 3 Tier: Apprentice Stats changes: +5 DEF Description: Soon, you'll be able to break an opponent's face. Right now, these stop you from breaking your hands. Name: Dragon Headband Type: Helm Cost: 1000 Level: 16 Tier: Apprentice Stats changes: +20 HP Description: Be one with the red dragon! Or not. --- "If I don't live diligently, I can't die. So I will fight. Even if... I have no chance of winning." ~Shinji Ikari, RE-TAKE |
| Scorpion 316 | Posted: 11/27/2006 3:12:58 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 234 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Well, how about we do it this way, Kenri? You go ahead and start making some stuff to start them off, and I'll fill in some more stuff at a later time. Most likely weapons, but probably some better armor too. If you don't mind though, I'd like to start off making stuff for the final class for the tree, since I have lots of ideas there already. >_> +++ http://i15.tinypic.com/4c1rtwh.jpg If only the Catholics would really see the light.. *sigh* "Before I found this movie.. Women only made me cry from my penis! Now they make me cry from my eyes.." - Peter Griffin |
| xp1337 | Posted: 11/27/2006 7:45:56 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 235 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | +600 ATK, No. --- xp1337: Your former local puppet admin. "This is the light of my soul, a sacred territory upon which no one may intrude." - Kaworu, NGE. |
| Scorpion 316 | Posted: 11/27/2006 8:03:49 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 236 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Name: BFA Type: Weapon Cost: 40,000 Level: 30 Tier: Berserker Stats changes: +600 ATK, -200 DEF, -200 MDEF, -300 SPD Description: Before God said "Let there be light", he had to move this axe the hell out of the way. I didn't notice this before.. but that's highly broken and the name is kind of lame. I could offer a fix though if you'd like. +++ http://i15.tinypic.com/4c1rtwh.jpg If only the Catholics would really see the light.. *sigh* "Before I found this movie.. Women only made me cry from my penis! Now they make me cry from my eyes.." - Peter Griffin |
| Kenri of the Yuri | Posted: 11/27/2006 10:37:55 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 237 |
| Level: 43 Editor | No. Right, I forgot that we should look at singular parts of things to determine whether they're broken, and not the whole package. Because that's really intelligent. Let's see if I can do this for other weapons? Royal Lance. +125 ATK? zomg broken, what if a level 1 horseman uses that Nevermind that they can't; why let facts get in the way of my point? I didn't notice this before.. but that's highly broken and the name is kind of lame. I could offer a fix though if you'd like. How is it broken? Did you notice what it does to your defense and speed? You'll be killed before you can even move. >_> And the name is a reference to the BFG9000, the best video game weapon ever. Go ahead and offer a fix though. --- "If I don't live diligently, I can't die. So I will fight. Even if... I have no chance of winning." ~Shinji Ikari, RE-TAKE |
| Scorpion 316 | Posted: 11/27/2006 11:27:46 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 238 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | How is it broken? Did you notice what it does to your defense and speed? You'll be killed before you can even move. >_> That was the wrong choice of words.. but have you noticed how insanely stupid some of these monsters can be even with Ajax? >_> And the name is a reference to the BFG9000, the best video game weapon ever. I'm well aware of what it was a reference too.. but it's still kinda lame in this context, probably because the BFG-type listing should IMO, only be a gun.. It sounds kind of lame with anything else. =/ Right, I forgot that we should look at singular parts of things to determine whether they're broken, and not the whole package. Because that's really intelligent. Let's see if I can do this for other weapons? Royal Lance. +125 ATK? zomg broken, what if a level 1 horseman uses that Nevermind that they can't; why let facts get in the way of my point? I was looking at the other facts. Specifically the price point and the point of the game we're currently at. Not to mention, I have my own reason for not liking this idea. Go ahead and offer a fix though. My main problem with it.. is that the boost is too high for this point of the game. I admit, saying it was highly broken wasn't the right choice of words to use, but I still feel it's far too powerful for this point in the game, even WITH it's drawbacks. I, myself, don't feel any weapon boosts should go over a 220 boost on any one stat right now, but with the absolute maximum being a 300 point boost. Later on, a weapon like this would be perfectly fine and acceptable.. just right at this point and time it seems a bit too strong, to me. Here's my revision suggestion for the weapon: Name: BFA (I'd still say to think of something a little better.. but that's your call. Just my opinion.) Type: Weapon Cost: 60,000 Level: 30 Tier: Berserker Stats changes: +300 ATK, -20 DEF, -20 MDEF (Or, no DEF/MDEF loss at all.) Description: Before God said "Let there be light", he had to move this axe the hell out of the way. +++ http://i15.tinypic.com/4c1rtwh.jpg If only the Catholics would really see the light.. *sigh* "Before I found this movie.. Women only made me cry from my penis! Now they make me cry from my eyes.." - Peter Griffin |
| xp1337 | Posted: 11/27/2006 11:31:43 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 239 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Right, I forgot that we should look at singular parts of things to determine whether they're broken, and not the whole package. Because that's really intelligent. Because that's what I did. lol o wate I did look at everything else, it's still horribly broken. Scorp's version is ok though. --- xp1337: Your former local puppet admin. "This is the light of my soul, a sacred territory upon which no one may intrude." - Kaworu, NGE. |
| Kenri of the Yuri | Posted: 11/28/2006 12:08:14 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 240 |
| Level: 43 Editor | Right, but with the fix, it's just like every other weapon. Might as well call it "3rd Stage Weapon". That was the wrong choice of words.. but have you noticed how insanely stupid some of these monsters can be even with Ajax? >_> Right, and this is what stops the weapon from being completely worthless. See where I'm going with this? See, this is how Berserkers work. They don't care about being hurt. Or being killed. They care about boosting their ATK enough to OHKO Poseidon. If they can hit him. Which they usually won't, because he'll kill them first. But luckily, they don't care about being killed, and they drag their carcass back to the healing place, and good as new, they charge at Poseidon for another round. My main problem with it.. is that the boost is too high for this point of the game. I admit, saying it was highly broken wasn't the right choice of words to use, but I still feel it's far too powerful for this point in the game, even WITH it's drawbacks. I, myself, don't feel any weapon boosts should go over a 220 boost on any one stat right now, but with the absolute maximum being a 300 point boost. Later on, a weapon like this would be perfectly fine and acceptable.. just right at this point and time it seems a bit too strong, to me. Implement it later! Dammit, why didn't I think of that? I mean, because there are so many Berserkers around, obviously we're clamoring to put Berserker weapons in. It's not like the class itself doesn't even exist yet. --- "If I don't live diligently, I can't die. So I will fight. Even if... I have no chance of winning." ~Shinji Ikari, RE-TAKE |
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