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Kodan Posted: 11/25/2011 12:25:37 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 121
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Deleted my DQ9 save to restart on a solo game.

[Spoiler for DQ9, click to show]Blah blah blah story stuff
Get to Hexgon at level 2.
Fight boss.
Die.
...

Grind to level 3.
Return. Fight boss.
die

This is just setting up the rest of the game. (Granted, you can't get party members at this point, there's no reason I died other then I fail)

Grind to L4.
Returned, fought boss.
Managed to kill him.

More story stuff.
Get to Stornway at level 5.
Grind to level 7.
Fight the Wight Knight.

Get decimated.
Yeah, wow.
Grind to level 8.

Fight him again.
Die.

...

Grind to 10.
Die AGAIN.

Really?

Grind to 14.
Attempting again. [/spoiler]

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Link Dude Posted: 11/25/2011 5:43:18 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 122
Level: 7
Provisional
Good lord you suck.
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Kodan Posted: 11/25/2011 6:59:09 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 123
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
At writing? I know.
Also, it's a solo game. Most of the bosses in DQ9 are fucking unforgiving. >_>

[Spoiler for DQ9, click to show]Actually beat the Wight Knight at 14, JUST BARELY.
Also, I did it again at 11,12 and died there too. So I decided to grind directly to 14.

Grinded to 16 for Morag.
First round? Paralyze. (aka dead BECAUSE IT NEVER GOES AWAY)
REMATCH! Got up to the third round before paralysis again.
....
At this point I was like FUCK IT, and cheated. I raised a MA up to level 6, and loaded him up with Moonwort Bulbs and only used Defend.
She never used paralysis that fight


Up to Coffinwell.
Leafy Larrikans are hilarious for a solo game. (And by hilarious, I mean completely stupid because they can summon an infinite amount of each other >_>)

I would like to note how bull shit EarthenWarriors are.
They show up way too often while Metal Slime grinding :|

Basically, this:
MC used Metal Slash for 2 damage (Metal Slime)
Earthenwarrior tied up MC with rope.

INACTIVE FOR TURN BECAUSE OF ROPE
Metal Slime attacks.

Next turn
Metal Slime Fled!
FFFFFFFFFFFU-

Fought the Ragin' Contagion at 18.
Wasn;'t as bad as the Wight Knight, really. Still a close fight.


Accessed the DQVC. Today was the last day of Metal Slime week. >_>
I got lucky, and the store had a Metal Slime Shield, Slime Crown, and Orichalcum. In order to raise the money for those, I sold off pretty much all of the Guests gear. (Cheated in this regard by setting my birthday to todays date and getting the extra gear >_> <_<)
Naturally I kept the best to use myself.
+118k gold at this point? Win.

Bought the shield, crown and orichalcum. Upgraded the Shield into a Liquid Metal Shield.

And stopped about there. [/spoiler]

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Message last edited by Kodan on 11/25/2011 at 09:44:50 AM.
Kodan Posted: 11/26/2011 12:23:12 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 124
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
[Spoiler for DQ9, click to show]Grinded for a bit in the Quarantomb for a bit, until I got Magic Mirror for the shield skill.

Went to Alltrades Abbay, did the stuff in there and headed out to the Tower of Trades.

Was level 23 when I fought him.
First match against Master of Nu'un went badly. I run out of mana keeping Magic Mirror up (He won't cast Woosh with it active), so he kept hitting me with critical Woosh's and Lightning.

Went back to Stornway, and made a bunch of Special Medicines, and bought some Magic Waters from Porth Llaffin and tried again.

This time I actually managed to beat him.
Used the Special Medicines for healing, and kept mana for Magic Mirror.

Started grinding my other classes up.
I plan to proceed with I have 100 Sword (For Omnivocational Swordmaster, because it makes grinding Metal Slimes easier on all classes) and at least 50~ points in the Gladiator, Martial Artist and Priest classes.

I plan to stick with the Minstral class, so those class skills will help quite a bit.[/spoiler]

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Message last edited by Kodan on 11/26/2011 at 12:26:14 PM.
Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 11/28/2011 6:13:09 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 125
Level: 43
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[Spoiler for Devil Survivor Overclocked, click to show]kenri those demons are absolute shit for day 4. >_>

who even cares

the game has been easy as piss

i might as well try to make it harder by using awful demons

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-We arrive mere seconds too late to save Keisuke from Kaido. One would think that we could have just showed up early or something, but then, I tried this event twice, once at 13:00 and once at 13:30, and there was no difference, so I think we just need to accept that fate is trolling us.

-I have no idea how Yama lost to Pazuzu, by the way, or how Pazuzu was able to one-shot Keisuke's crows.

seriously, those fucking crows

goddamn fucking birds in video games

-This fight starts off REALLY BADLY but I quickly pull it together. Unfortunately beating Kaido ends the battle immediately, so I didn't get to kill Pazuzu again.

-Okay, I really need to replace the Garms in my lineup now. Being OHKO'd by Mazan is just not acceptable.

-We head back to that tunnel and get attacked by demons! Oh no, a moderate threat! whatever will we do. Oh, but then Izuna and Fushimi show up, and Izuna has a COMP now, but she doesn't know a thing about it and doesn't realize you need to beat the demon it summons first. (how did she ever manage to keep the lockdown going like this)

-Anyway, we smash all the demons and Izuna and Fushimi together manage to take out... a single crow, thus forming a contract. Wonder what would have happened if I had killed it instead, because believe me, I had plenty of opportunities to.

-Izuna talks Fushimi into cooperating with our party, except it's really a sort of one-sided "cooperation" in that they're blatantly evil and we're doing all the work, but whatever. We get some info out of it, at least.

-Around here we also talk to a guy who wants out of the Shomonkai, Amane, Honda, and a few other folks. Here's the basic story so far:

1. Shomonkai worship Belberith, one of the demons competing in the War of Bel.
2. They gather believers to increase Belberith's strength in preparation for God's ordeal.
3. This causes the lockdown, which is God's ordeal (how is that for some irony? oh those wacky shomonkai)
4. Angels gave orders to the human governments on how to carry out the lockdown.
5. If the SDF doesn't "succeed" (what merits success here? it's never mentioned) within the time limit, the government is going to kill everyone in the Yamanote circle.
6. However: If humans don't fix every problem ever before time is up, God is going to intervene and save everyone, but take their free will in the process (welcome to SMT, where God is a dick).
7. Amane is (consensually) possessed by Remiel (and possibly another demon?) and thinks the Shomonkai should side with God, not Belberith.
8. The modified COMPs were created by Naoya and a girl the Shomonkai abducted (so, Aya) in order to provide a quick and easy way to summon more demons. Amane was capable of summoning demons without a COMP, and Aya was like... the only one capable of singing the Demon Summoning Melody... or something... I dunno, I can barely keep all this straight.

-There's a battle where we need to defend the SDF from demons.

Let me run that by you again.

There is a battle where we need to DEFEND the SDF from demons.

This raises so many questions I can't even see straight.

1. The demons are quite possibly the good guys in the situation, and at worst they're the lesser evil.
2. We've been trying to lift this lockdown for days, and now we get our chance, and just blow it without so much as a single comment.
3. HOW HAS THIS LOCKDOWN EVEN BEEN WORKING? IT'S A LOCKDOWN TO KEEP DEMONS IN, BUT THE SDF CANNOT FIGHT DEMONS. HOW. IT MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL. IT IS FUNDAMENTALLY FLAWED ON THE MOST BASIC LEVELS.

-Around the end of the day, there's a rather "complex" fight, by which I mean Atsuro thinks it's complicated but it's really not. There are demons, NPC civvies we need to protect (after persuading them that we're not evil), and a dick of a demon tamer who we need to break the COMP of and then protect.

-The demon tamer goes down on turn 1, the NPCs are persuaded shortly thereafter, and although we're supposed to escort them away, it's much easier to just kill all the remaining demons at that point.

-It's worth mentioning that this entire fight is basically the game's way of "explaining" a major plot hole, which is the existence of death clocks. See, the general public isn't supposed to know that the government will kill everyone in a few days (because if they did, they'd just wipe out the SDF with ease), but demon tamers can see that everyone is going to die at the same time and thus make the logical conclusion. This guy was ranting about that, which... explains nothing, except that even idiots can figure it out, so logically everyone with a COMP and questionable morals (and/or basic common sense) would be attacking the SDF, right? ...Right?

......

Right?

-My character gets a phone call from Naoya.

Naoya: MC, my cousin! You want to go demon hunting?

no but seriously he says he'll give us some answers if we kill six demons in three turns. not a problem, even with a serious lack of devil speed right now (finally replaced those garms).

-I wonder if you can attack Naoya during that battle? I didn't try, but his stats made it look thoroughly winnable if he counts as an enemy.

-Naoya is still a dick. And can't seem to decide whether he's my cousin or my brother.

-So... I guess the deal here is that God chose MC for... whatever's happening now, not Naoya, though that doesn't answer anything, because Naoya quite clearly gave us the COMPs and all. Again: Naoya is a dick.

-He wants MC to win the War of Bel, which is frankly fine with me, especially if it'll give me control over all demons like he claims. I'd say that's as good as the server plan, except that that plan has the added bonus of proving wrong all the arrogant jerks who said we couldn't do it. (Incidentally, Naoya's reaction when we told him that plan was basically "wtf, i didn't even think of that".)

-day 6. laplace mail says that we'll all die in a fire (yay!) and also that it's broken and we won't be getting it anymore. outstanding.

-I can't remember much of what happened here, I was blitzing through the first half of this day. We talked to Gin about Haru; he hasn't seen her recently either. He also reveals that he got his COMP from Naoya as well. Or rather, that Naoya left it behind in his bar.

-We find some SDF guys killing a demon tamer.

...

jesus christing fuck, they're the SAME GUYS we beat up earlier? holy shit, TAKE A FUCKING CLUE. well, I guess we'll just have to BEAT THEM AGAIN.

-i will give them some credit. a turn in, they decide to get the fuck outta dodge, and the mission becomes 1890% more annoying, because if any of them escape, we fail automatically. they also drop some COMPs which will summon demon parties fairly frequently, which wouldn't be a problem except these demons can cast Bind (drops the target party's movement to 1), and combined with trying to get Skill Cracks, this mission is actually really obnoxious.

-so obnoxious, in fact, that i lose during my first attempt, because a dude gets away.

-and i nearly lose again, but enemy AI is so bad. basically, enemies will have a "preferred" exit spot. what i didn't realize until now was that their priorities seem to be: escape using preferred spot > attack someone > escape using non-preferred spot. parking atsuro in their preferred exit spot made the enemy attack him instead of moving one square to the left, leaving, and causing me to fail. PROGRAMMING ENEMIES IS HARD, GUYS

-maybe now these guys will GET THE GODDAMN IDEA and stop being enormous pricks.

-wheeee we waste some time until noon (if anything important happened i can't remember it)

-Gin has headed to Roppongi to confront Azuma about Aya.

Gin: Hey there. Mind if I ask you a few questions about Aya?
Azuma: I know nobody by that name.
Gin: That so? Must've forgotten. Maybe if I jog your memory?
Azuma: ...Try that and you will regret it. You will not live to regret it, but there will be a very small window of time wherein you will regret it immensely.
Gin: Fascinating. Well, that's one theory.
Azuma: I don't think you understand. It's not a matter of strength. You are factually incapable of harming me.
Gin: Then I'll just channel the SDF, who are factually incapable of harming demons and yet have been able to keep hordes of demons contained in the city.
Azuma: Sorry, you're going to need to do more than point out glaring plot holes to defeat me.

[Azuma calls in like 8 Shomonkai demon tamers.]

Gin: Tch! Guess this might be interesting after all.
Azuma: You're not wrong. Curbstomps usually are fairly interesting.

[MC's party appears.]

MC: Yo, Gin!
Gin: MC! What's crackin'?
MC: Not much, here to lend a hand. Unless you think you can handle this many?
Gin: Eh. Might be trouble if one more shows up.
MC: Then that'll have to be the one I take care of.
Gin: What, you're fighting too?

[Gin immediately goes straight to Azuma and attacks him.]

Azuma: Wait, what? How the hell did you damage me?!
Gin: It was easy. First I started hitting you in the face. Then I hit you in the face.
Azuma: But... COMPs are programmed never to harm holders of higher ranked COMPs! That COMP wasn't given to you by the Shomonkai, was it?!
Gin: Brilliant deduction, Sherlock.
Azuma: Damn that Naoya! Not only did he betray us, he double-plus betrayed us!

[Gin continues to battle Azuma.]

MC: Okay, he's taking a lot of damage. Midori, go help him.
Midori: Yessir!

[Midori gets owned.]

MC: ...welp.
MC: Atsuro, go help him.
Atsuro: I'm on it!

[Atsuro gets owned.]

MC: huh.
MC: ...
MC: yuzu, go help him
Yuzu: Fuck you.

[Gin gets taken out, but let's pretend none of this happened.]

MC: this fight sure is trivial
Atsuro: yes, i doubt it could ever give us issues, in this or any possible universe
Yuzu: The only danger we're in is of Gin kicking too much ass and- yep, there it is, he just messed up our Skill Cracks.
MC: goddammit.

[We win the fight.]

Gin: Okay, let's try this again, and keep in mind that for every answer you DON'T give me, I'll remove one of your lungs.
Azuma: Th-there's nothing to say! Aya's gone! She vanished into the world of the demons!
Gin: How do I get her back?
Azuma: It's impossible!
Gin: Wrong answer.
Azuma: It's improbable!
Gin: Try again.
Azuma: It's... highly unlikely.
Gin: ...
Azuma: ...
Gin: Get the fuck out of my sight. If I ever see you again, consider your life forfeit.

[Azuma runs off with his tail between his legs. Gin's death clocks goes up to 1.]

-We find a bunch of demon tamers harrassing some harmless demons, who are being protected by BLACK FROST, a demon Midori talked to earlier about the merits of being a hero (dunno if I mentioned this scene). We're given the choice of who to aid, I obviously pick the demons because I'm pretty much pro-demon even when the demons are trying to kill humans (because they're still better than the SDF in that case).

-We shut down the tamers quite easily, despite Black Frost nearly dying.

-Naoya has suddenly become very easy to find. wtf was he even doing running away from us this whole time? It's not like he's being vague now. "Hey MC, you need to take out all the other demons with the name of Bel, become King of Bel, kill God, and then tell the SDF to end the lockdown, and this will solve everything ever."

-We go and talk to Gin. He says that he's going to start trying to restore Tokyo to the way Aya would have wanted it, etc etc, wipe out all demons. I think we could have possibly gotten him on our party here if we agreed to this, but we have seen multiple times that demons are not all, or even necessarily majoritarily, evil. Besides, he's almost certainly going to use demons in his quest to... kill all demons, which just strikes me as him being kind of a prick. So yeah, fuck you and your quest, guy.

-We also find Izuna questioning some Shomonkai mook about Amane, but then Amane herself shows up to clarify things. Apparently she has not only Remiel inside her but also Jezebel, who is a servant of Belberith, and it was Jezebel she used to defeat... whatever demon it was that she beat a while ago, before this whole incident. This is not very relevant and I don't really know why Izuna cared.

REASON #479 THAT THIS PLOT MAKES NO SENSE: Demons have existed forever. This has been stated multiple times. You can also summon them just by being like, "gosh, i sure wish i could kill a bunch of people" (see: Keisuke). Which raises the questions of A) how did nobody know about this? and B) WHY IS THE LOCKDOWN WORKING/NECESSARY?

-We talk to Kaido, and everyone in the party (except Midori, who doesn't get dialogue for some reason) is like... ready to forgive him? And it's like, holy shit, we've known this guy for less than a week, and he's spent the majority of that time being a complete prick.

First he was marginally helpful.
Then he messed up our Skill Cracks.
Then he challenged us to that stupid-ass bullshit demon hunting challenge, essentially trying to mug us.
Then he summoned Pazuzu and went around trying to get really strong for no apparent reason? and also started trying to murder random dudes for being pricks, but he's a huge prick himself.
And THEN, he killed somebody who we actually knew and were kind of, sort of friends with, or at least Atsuro was, and yes, that guy was being an enormous jackass too, but at least his jackassery was moderately more understandable.

So no, I will not forgive him, and also, we cannot be friends anymore, because I have seen how you guys treat your friends.

-We talk to that mysterious guy who reveals that Belberith is the demon closest to winning the War of Bel, in part because he has Jezebel and Belzaboul subservient to him, which makes no sense if they're all in a war (and the party points this out) but whatever. Apparently Belzaboul is also just as strong as Belberith or something? Whatever, basically this is the game going "whoops we introduced too many villains and took way too long dealing with the first few so now let's justify a big endgame boss rush".

-The more annoying part of all this is that I think I'm being set up for a situation in which, no matter what side I ally with, I end up having to kill Amane. And that would be bad. Because Amane's pretty cool.

-we hear about a fight between demon tamers and head in to break it up by defeating both parties and taking their COMPs

...

wait.

wait what.

but. how do we know one side is in the wrong? we've spent like half the game fighting other demon tamers. what if one side is like us.

and you can't say "if they were, they'd stop fighting when we show up and try to reason with them using our reason", because fuck, would we listen if somebody tried that on us? no, we just fight everyone, all the time, except the SDF, which is odd because they're the main villains.

-blah blah blah more shit about me being the messiah NO IT ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN

I DON'T EVEN LIKE ANY OF YOU PEOPLE

-so... what happens next is some BS and I really don't like it. Some demons take out some SDF dudes, so angels show up to stop them from leaving the lockdown, but Honda's also there and wants to escape, and we're given a choice of who to help. And why would we ever choice to help anyone but Honda? But then we're not allowed to, because the subsequent choice offers only two options: "Escape as well" and "Stop him by force", but we can't escape as well because if we do... everyone will die for... some reason?

Like... I guess the government will use their FINAL RESORT, but like... what would it even accomplish. I thought the final resort (to be used if the SDF's lockdown failed) was referring to if they failed to get rid of demons... or something, again, their win condition was never stated... in seven days, not to be used if the lockdown itself was broken. Because if the lockdown is broken, killing everyone accomplishes less than nothing. There would be riots in the streets and the government would probably get overthrown. People aren't going to stand for that shit, to say nothing of the demons/demon tamers who are now out and pissed.

...i really want to know what would have happened if everything had gone completely according to the SDF's plan here. what were they trying to accomplish? it's not stated, because there is no answer. NONE OF THIS GAME'S PLOT MAKES ANY SENSE, AND EVERYTHING THAT'S ADDED TO IT JUST MAKES IT MAKE LESS SENSE

WHATEVER. All aboard the plot train, CHOO CHOO. NEXT STOP KILLING EVERYONE SO THE GAME CAN PROGRESS

-time to go die to belial guys

-we run into that mysterious gentleman again and ask him about the bels

apparently Bel was a being the used to rule the world until he lost a battle for dominance againt Yehowah (or God). he split himself into a bunch of lesser deities, the Bels. so the bels are fighting to reclaim the power of that original bel.

...which doesn't explain why my character is able to participate, but maybe his real name is Main Charactbel or something.

-...you know, i was just kidding about dying to belial

i uh

i didn't expect this fight to actually be difficult

lord knows nothing else in the game so far has been

-well then, i guess i should probably try to... you know, fuse some demons or something, maybe use actual ice attacks

or i could just try to brute force it with atsuro like usual

...choices choices [/spoiler]

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Epyon Posted: 11/30/2011 1:59:51 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 126
Level: 37
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[Spoiler for Devil Survivor Overclocked, click to show]
who even cares

the game has been easy as piss


It really is, but there's still far more effective offensive demons to use to speed things up. Furthermore you're going to really hate day 6 when that rolls around if you don't have some upgraded demons.

-We arrive mere seconds too late to save Keisuke from Kaido. One would think that we could have just showed up early or something, but then, I tried this event twice, once at 13:00 and once at 13:30, and there was no difference, so I think we just need to accept that fate is trolling us.

Whoops!

On day 2, you saw that event where Kaido crushes on Mari, right? Well, tell him on that day that he should try to save Mari. Then, if you want to save Kaido and Keisuke, on day 5 give Mari's bag to KAIDO, not Mari. Then just make sure you do the Keisuke fight before it becomes Kaido and Keisuke. Mari will still be safe because Kaido will show up to the 2nd Kudlak fight and give her the bag, just do the Mari fight first and then Keisuke as soon as possible afterwards.

The more you know!

Keisuke dying also apparently locks one out of the Atsuro route by the way. Really "great" of the game to do that.

Wonder what would have happened if I had killed it instead, because believe me, I had plenty of opportunities to.

The exact same thing. Whoo-hoo!

-Around the end of the day, there's a rather "complex" fight, by which I mean Atsuro thinks it's complicated but it's really not. There are demons, NPC civvies we need to protect (after persuading them that we're not evil), and a dick of a demon tamer who we need to break the COMP of and then protect.

This fight basically exists just to crack Magic Yang which is a ridiculously good auto-skill.

-I wonder if you can attack Naoya during that battle?

I gave it a try recently and no, he doesn't count as an enemy for that fight.

-Naoya is still a dick. And can't seem to decide whether he's my cousin or my brother.

I adore how it's so hard to tell whether that's a mistranslation or an actual plot point.

jesus christing fuck, they're the SAME GUYS we beat up earlier? holy shit, TAKE A FUCKING CLUE. well, I guess we'll just have to BEAT THEM AGAIN.

This is an extremely annoying fight btw for that point in the game. Their demons are a hell of a lot stronger than the trash mobs from days 1-5 and the soldiers seem to get far more turns than they actually should.

-Gin has headed to Roppongi to confront Azuma about Aya.

Oh lawd, the greatest fight in the game.

Azuma: But... COMPs are programmed never to harm holders of higher ranked COMPs! That COMP wasn't given to you by the Shomonkai, was it?!

I just love this fight so much. Azuma is such a god damned idiot. Couldn't have have TESTED this concept a few days ago by trying to have a Shomonkai member punch him? This is the only time this "plot point" ever comes up, to boot.

Gin is also just beastly in this. I've never seen him get killed and he usually dispatches 5/7 Shomonkai by the time I bother getting to him. Azuma is almost always dead by the time I reach him as well.

-We talk to Kaido, and everyone in the party (except Midori, who doesn't get dialogue for some reason) is like... ready to forgive him? And it's like, holy shit, we've known this guy for less than a week, and he's spent the majority of that time being a complete prick.

...Wow. That's amazing. (never saw this scene as I always saved Keisuke <3)

but we can't escape as well because if we do... everyone will die for... some reason?

This is explained a lot better if you're doing Atsuro's route. You'll actually know how everyone will die!

i didn't expect this fight to actually be difficult

A few things to note with Belial. He only has an attack range of one, so if needed you can troll him with Chaos Wave and have someone use Bind on him. I had a Kudlak immune to fire drop his speed to 1 every turn and had my MC with a Chaos Waver go Ice Dance with Ice Amp and Ice Boost to wreck his shit as soon as I could. Have as many of your demons and tamers resistant or immune to fire as possible, obviously.

Don't bother putting on anti-phys or null phys for Belial. He has pierce, which means he ignores any resistance to physical attacks unless it's repel physical. As for demons to fuse, Hecate is totally awesome for that fight. She has tyranny, which will push back Belial's turn every time you fight. Anything with Double Up is also acceptable paired with a Chaos Wave demon so that you can throw many Ice Dances at him. Belial also cannot heal if he can't retaliate against you, so losing the Extra Turn is worth it. Your MC should probably have Blitzkrieg to make the Ice Dances even more nasty. If you lack Double Up, Awakening will also do nicely.

And yes, the Dance moves are far better than things like Bufudyne against single targets.

Lastly, do be sure to let Atsuro crack Deathbound in this fight. It's the best physical attack move against single targets in the game, so it's a really good idea![/spoiler]

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Message last edited by Epyon on 11/30/2011 at 02:13:26 AM.
Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 11/30/2011 7:02:09 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 127
Level: 43
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[Spoiler for Devil Survivor Overclocked, click to show]Keisuke dying also apparently locks one out of the Atsuro route by the way. Really "great" of the game to do that.

outstanding


Gin is also just beastly in this. I've never seen him get killed and he usually dispatches 5/7 Shomonkai by the time I bother getting to him. Azuma is almost always dead by the time I reach him as well.

It's weird, he just got crushed during my first attempt, but then he destroyed everything during attempt two. I think I barely managed to Switch with him before he killed Azuma, but after he had crippled Azuma and killed every other enemy in a ten mile radius.

what a badass


...Wow. That's amazing. (never saw this scene as I always saved Keisuke <3)

It's really sort of remarkable.

I've been pretty much ignoring Kaido events except when I don't have better options, so literally the only time Kaido has been helpful to the party is when he was like "Nope, I don't know Naoya, if I find out something I'll let you know" at the start of the game. And I guess that first fight where he and Honda decide to "help" you.

so it really doesn't seem like the party should have any reason not to just attack him on sight

--

-Okay, this time we're coming in with better demons, more ice spells, and stuff like Ban Fire/Null Fire/etc.

-...yeah yuzu can solo belial now

-......though i still ended up killing him with atsuro, because brute forcing things with aggravate is somehow faster than using ice here

-i sort of wish i had seen epyon's post before doing this fight (i am the absolute worst)

-anyway. that was anticlimactic.

-yay, haru's saved. again. we tell her about her song summoning demons but that conversation goes nowhere.

-hello mysterious man

"No wonder your Naoya's bro--I mean, cousin."

no wonder you're grammar is so bad

also make up your damn mind, game

-well, this is extremely interesting. I've got three events I can do at 19:00. One with Yuzu, one with Amane, and one with Naoya. And this is going to shape the rest of the game.

...

this is bullshit, i don't like ANY of these options

nothing good will come from allying with naoya, becoming messiah essentially means joining the villains, and yuzu's plan to just run away is cowardice, and also won't work

sigh

games with branching plots, you are the absolute worst [/spoiler]

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Epyon Posted: 11/30/2011 10:03:17 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 128
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[Spoiler for Devil Survivor Overclocked, click to show]nothing good will come from allying with naoya, becoming messiah essentially means joining the villains, and yuzu's plan to just run away is cowardice, and also won't work

sigh


Oh boy. Yuzu's route is really easy and a great way to leap into a new game+ while the other two are the two hardest routes to do for a first playthrough! Have fun choosing!

Also, since you're at that point, I may as well list what the other routes are.

-Kaido (the exact same as Naoya's but with slightly different dialogue, so it's often called the Naoya/Kaido route)

-Gin/Haru (you came pretty close to unlocking it from what I can tell but you need to do a lot of Atsuro's route to unlock this, including going to the Shomonkai facility when possible. Hardest route to unlock in a first playthrough due to having to manage your time really well).

-Atsuro (have to do his events and a bit of Gin/Haru to get this one, along with visiting the Shomonkai facility whenever you can).

Note that all routes except Yuzu's and Atsuro's require Haru to be alive to do them, so saving her is always a must (though I saved everyone every playthrough anyway as that's cooler). My first game I unlocked all the routes except Kaido's and Amane's, but it's possible to get all 5/6 in one go if you plan things right.[/spoiler]

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Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 12/21/2011 5:42:20 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 129
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Games I've been playing recently:

-Mega Man ZX Advent has been, in Metroidvania tradition, summarily started, beaten, completely dissected down to its base elements, and reassembled. I have no idea why this genre has such a hold over me but there you go. Very good game, albeit with some awful components (voice acting: now with 100% less acting!).

-3DS Ambassador games! Was going to do another 1% run of Metroid Fusion (what is with me and metroidvania games i do not understand) but then it turned out that the 3DS applies a patented shit filter to all GBA games, which makes them look "pretty bad". So, I think I'll play this on my DS if I end up playing it at all.

-I did, however, start Wario Land 4, which seems a lot more comprehensible than Wario Land 3, a game I could never even come close to understanding as a stupid kid. Don't know if I'm actually going to play through this or not though.

-Mario vs. Donkey Kong is really good, and not what I was expecting. I guess this series became a Lemmings clone later or something? But this game is more like Donkey Kong '94, which is an awesome game. I beat the first world and look forward to more.

-Steam is doing some weird holiday thing where you earn achievements in certain games to win FABULOUS PRIZES. The achievements don't seem that hard/time consuming and I own a lot of the games from Humble Bundles, so I figure I might as well give it a shot. So far, I picked up a Frozen Synapse achievement for winning a skirmish with one lone machine gunner alive on my side... mainly by setting up a custom skirmish with no enemies and only one allied machine gunner. aww yeah gamin' the system

-Also started Jamestown, which is a steampunk bullet hell shmup set in an alternate history colonial America it's actually Mars, in an alternate history where Mars is colonized instead of North America (this is not spoilers but it IS awesome) and the Spanish have allied with the Martians to drive out the colonists. It's... fantastic, in all respects, but especially the story, which is so absurd that it swings around and becomes pretty much the best thing ever. I am, however, really bad at this game, so ehhh. (Achievement: beat any mission with the Charge Ship, which was easily done.)

Games I haven't been playing recently:

-Devil Survivor Overclocked.
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Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 12/21/2011 8:23:29 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 130
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It turns out, my ability to play bullet hell games improves dramatically when using an actual controller rather than a keyboard. who'da thunk it.

However: it also turns out that a controller does not make me suddenly good at the games, especially when later levels lock you out of lower difficulty settings (seriously, i picked normal because it was called "normal", if it was going to become unavailable later you should have named it "little girls mode for little girls"). Though I guess that could be seen as a Touhou reference. In which case it would make more sense as the hardest difficulty.

...

i'll show myself out.
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Epyon Posted: 12/22/2011 3:58:48 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 131
Level: 37
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-3DS Ambassador games! Was going to do another 1% run of Metroid Fusion (what is with me and metroidvania games i do not understand) but then it turned out that the 3DS applies a patented shit filter to all GBA games, which makes them look "pretty bad". So, I think I'll play this on my DS if I end up playing it at all.


Hold start and select while you're booting up Fusion.
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Kodan Posted: 12/22/2011 4:06:05 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 132
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
-Also started Jamestown, which is a steampunk bullet hell shmup set in an alternate history colonial America it's actually Mars, in an alternate history where Mars is colonized instead of North America (this is not spoilers but it IS awesome)

...
How does that work?
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Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 12/22/2011 9:56:25 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 133
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Hold start and select while you're booting up Fusion.

...holy ****

thank you

(why would that not be the default)


How does that work?

That is a VERY good question and I'm afraid I do not have an answer for you!
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Epyon Posted: 12/23/2011 7:05:04 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 134
Level: 37
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...holy ****

thank you

(why would that not be the default)


This also works for DS and Game Boy games, of course.
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Kodan Posted: 12/25/2011 2:07:38 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 135
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
While waiting for parents to wake up, and my Sister to get here, I decided to play DQ9, which I quit plkaying about a week ago.

[Spoiler for DQ9, click to show]Nothing much to report, the lleviathan was rather easy. Got down to Bloomingdale and fought the Tyrantula.

3 deaths in a row to that bitch, I leveled up to 26 (From 25)
I finally get a break and get 100 Tension. I use Falcon Slash for 1000~ damage.
http://myfacewhen.com/249/

...The next 15+ turns are spent being unable to do anything because she kept hitting me with Wicked Web (Prevents your characters next turn) and when it didn't, I had to heal myself.
http://myfacewhen.com/3/

Finally I'm out of healing items and extremely pissed off.
MORE TURNS ARE SPENT FROZEN
http://myfacewhen.com/181/

"OH MY GOD FUCK YOU YOU BITCH"
(No myfacewhen picture accuratly describes it, not even rageface)
*Gigaslash out of desperation*
...*it dies*

.....
http://myfacewhen.com/7/
http://myfacewhen.com/3/ [/spoiler]

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Kodan Posted: 12/27/2011 1:03:56 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 136
Level: 49
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Skyrim on an HDTV is freaking beautiful

...
Actually.
Any of the games I have on the 360 are freaking awesome looking with the TV.
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xp1337 Posted: 12/27/2011 1:10:30 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 137
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Yeah, Skyrim is pretty impressive looking. And yeah, most of the 360 games, at least the ones that put the effort into it, look amazing. FFXIII and Skyrim might be some of the most visually impressive games I've played.
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Kodan Posted: 12/27/2011 2:29:06 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 138
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Yeah, I popped Forza 3 in earlier and was amazed that I COULD ACTUALLY READ THE GOD DAMN TEXT IN THE GAME WITHOUT SQUINTING.

Which leads me to ask... How the HELL did I play those games on SD?

I love my new TV.
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Kodan Posted: 12/27/2011 10:03:25 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 139
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Liberal Arts Major
.....
XD

Aggroing giant = Bad idea. I accidentally aggro'ed one with a straw arrow >_>

It hit me.
I became the first Argonian to reach the clouds.
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Kodan Posted: 12/28/2011 12:24:29 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 140
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
The spiders in Skyrim are fucking terrifying
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xp1337 Posted: 12/28/2011 12:25:53 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 141
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Spiders are still my most hated enemies. They're not even hard to fight. I just don't want them near me ever because oh my god.
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Kodan Posted: 12/28/2011 12:38:02 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 142
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Liberal Arts Major
Yeah, exactly.
I normally don't mind spiders in games as long as they don't look scary as all fucking hell (See: LOTR movies spider, Skyrim...)

Although the boss spider for the Dragonstone barrow kicked my ass a couple times >_> (In my defense I went straight there, underequiped and playing on Adept difficulty >_>) (I still haven't completed that >_>)
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xp1337 Posted: 12/28/2011 3:20:56 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 143
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Liberal Arts Major
As far as I can tell, the easiest way to beat, well, everything. Is to go one-handed with a shield. And just block everything when you're not attacking, and devote all your stamina to bashing with the shield whenever possible to stun and get a few hits in before you either bash again, or just back up and dodge.

Swap the shield for healing when needed, or for magic if you want.

And, of course, sneaking around with a bow when you're out of combat for sneak attacks. (Unless you can sneak attack with a sword, even better then, but usually not an option in a lot of cases. Unless you have more sneak perks than I do/did, maybe.)
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Kodan Posted: 12/28/2011 7:40:19 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 144
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
That's exactly what I've been doing XD

...You pretty much need to.
Adept is basically Normal and it's pretty fucking brutal.
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Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 12/28/2011 7:57:56 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 145
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Games I've been playing lately:

-Bit.Trip Runner. This game is pretty neat. It has a really cool aesthetic, very clean and modern while still looking retro. The way the gameplay adds to the music is also really impressive. That said, the game demands perfection to a degree which I cannot provide. If you make any mistake, ever, at any point, you go all the way back to the beginning of the level. The levels aren't that long, but it's still disheartening, especially when completing a level seems to frequently come down to trial and error/building muscle memory. Picked up a couple achievements believed to be part of the Steam holiday thing, but I honestly kind of doubt they are at this point.

-Audiosurf. The best game. For those who don't know, it's a racing game/puzzle game/rhythm game hybrid that uses your music to generate unique tracks. There are a bunch of different gameplay modes (well, characters, but the character determines how the game plays) and difficulties to choose from, which is nice; I mainly stick to Mono Casual, which is the easiest, on Ironmode to make it a bit more challenging. The real fun comes from trying to get on the leaderboards, though. The other day I spent quite a while trying to dethrone the #1 for Beat the Angel from Tales of Symphonia, mostly because he acted like kind of a dick in the comments. Eventually pulled it off. In any case, I really enjoy the game and heartily recommend it. (Steam achievement: Make a candy cane stripe, which was easily done in a few minutes.)

-And Yet It Moves. A puzzle-platformer where the main mechanic is the ability to rotate the whole world. This can be disorienting and hard to control, though it does make for some cool gameplay challenges. I got to the beginning of world 2, grabbed the Steam achievement for "snowboarding" on a broken branch, and felt no real need to continue playing. Might come back to this at some future point though.

-Atom Zombie Smasher. You control a helicopter and shoot down zombies before they can infect citizens. It's top-down and more of a light strategy game than anything else, I'd say. I actually didn't touch the main mode, though. The Steam achievement was for beating 7 waves in the KringleJammer minigame, which was bullshit and not very fun. Oh, I finished it easily enough, but it did not make me want to play the main game, even though I hear the minigame is completely different and not anywhere near as good. (PS: The whole zombie fad is stupid and needs to go away, sooner rather than later.)

-Super Mario 3D Land. Hey, a non-Steam game! It's really good. Unlike OoT3D, I can keep the 3D slider at max and never feel uncomfortable, which just goes to show how important actually making games with the 3D in mind is. The gameplay is probably on the level of the better Mario games (World, 64, Galaxies). It's actually quite amazing how they managed to make a 2D Mario game that is also 3D. It seems like an oxymoron, right? But this really is a 2D Mario game, despite that whole third dimension thing.

Games I haven't been playing recently:

-Devil Survivor Overclocked.
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Kodan Posted: 12/28/2011 8:07:35 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 146
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
I think the thing I'm most disappointed about... All the races... Kind of look the same >_>

It's hard to tell who's what. I actually looked at an Argonian in Solitude, and didn't even realize it was an Argonian. I also don't like the Argonian's new voices. They sound FAR too human.
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Kodan Posted: 12/28/2011 10:14:23 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 147
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.......XD
[Spoiler for Skyrim, click to show]Got the Dragonstone, and the meeting between that watch guard and the Jarl.
Jarl: Where was it seen?
Watchguard: From t-
Random Nord Guard: Let me guess, someone stole your sweetroll? [/spoiler]


I don't know why this made me laugh so hard.
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Kodan Posted: 1/1/2012 8:17:29 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 148
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Liberal Arts Major
I forgot how hilariously useless Estelle is in Tales of Vesperia without a specific strategy setup >_>
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Kodan Posted: 1/3/2012 2:20:44 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 149
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
[Spoiler for Skyrim, click to show]*BATHED IN FLAMES*
"WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON"
"OH GOD DRAGON"
*second dragon*
"THE FUCK A SECOND DRAGON"
. . .
*Third dragon*
"YOU'RE KIDDING ME A THIRD DRAGON HOW IS THIS EVEN POSSIBLE"
*HIDES IN A MINE*
Forsworn Looter: WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU'RE DOING HERE
*Bandit swarm*
"OH FUCK ME"
*Runs out of mine*
*All 3 dragons are waiting outside*
*Runs away*
*The bandits and dragons start fighting*
*Runs away like a coward*

thatwasnotfunny [/spoiler]

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xp1337 Posted: 1/3/2012 2:29:19 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 150
Level: 49
Liberal Arts Major
Ahahahaha.

I think my favorite dragon moment so far (I haven't played in a while) was when I was trying to sneak up on a Giant to stealth into the camp to get something for a quest, and a Dragon spotted me.

...It made the error of attacking. The Giant decided to attend to the Dragon personally. I think I helped it in a naive hope that he'd take it as a sign of friendship. I was wrong.
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