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Okay, maybe that's missing the point. Maybe this is trying to stay "true" to the original. Still, there are some specific problems I feel the need to point out.
-Cubone is in the desert. What the hell? Why is it not at Mt. Pyre? Mt. Pyre basically screams "put Cubone here!" (Okay, okay, I haven't been to Mt. Pyre yet so it could be there...)
-Hitmonchan and Hitmonlee in the desert. Once again, what the HELL? What POSSIBLE reason is there for the Hitmons to be in the DESERT?
-I'm (sort of) okay with starters being catchable in the wild, but they're about as common as everything else. I mean, maybe it's just me, but I think starters should be at least SOMEWHAT rare. And Bulbasaur is in PETALBURG WOODS. That's like 3 minutes into the game. Couldn't they have at least put them somewhere near the end of the game?
-Kabuto and Omanyte are catchable in the top room of Mirage Tower, where the Root and Claw fossils are. Sorry, but I find that incredibly silly. Couldn't they have added more fossils in, like, Meteor Falls or the Safari Zone or something, instead of allowing extinct Pokemon to just freely roam around?
-The Safari Zone. It seems to me that just about every "hey, I have no idea where to put this" Pokemon was thrown into the Safari Zone.
-Eevee and Porygon are just randomly catchable in the wild. These things are supposed to be INCREDIBLY rare. Again, wtf.
-So far I haven't encountered any legendaries, but it bothers me to think of where they were all stuck.
By far the best addition is Diglett. Diglett absolutely breaks the game here, as nothing has been able to stand up its wrath since I got it (with the exception of Norman's hax Slaking. Goddamn Facade and Hyper Potions.)
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Isn't that the Safari Zone's purpose? >_>
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-Cubone is in the desert. What the hell? Why is it not at Mt. Pyre? Mt. Pyre basically screams "put Cubone here!" (Okay, okay, I haven't been to Mt. Pyre yet so it could be there...)
It's not. The lack of foresight on the part of the hacker is amusing.
-Hitmonchan and Hitmonlee in the desert. Once again, what the HELL? What POSSIBLE reason is there for the Hitmons to be in the DESERT?
...Otherwise nobody would go to the desert? Eh?
-I'm (sort of) okay with starters being catchable in the wild, but they're about as common as everything else. I mean, maybe it's just me, but I think starters should be at least SOMEWHAT rare. And Bulbasaur is in PETALBURG WOODS. That's like 3 minutes into the game. Couldn't they have at least put them somewhere near the end of the game?
I have Bulbasaur, but I haven't been able to find the others - and I've been searching for Charmander - so I can't say they're that common.
As for Bulby's location, I think it's nice, namely because I don't want to expend any intellectual effort on this game and Venosaur makes it happen.
-Kabuto and Omanyte are catchable in the top room of Mirage Tower, where the Root and Claw fossils are. Sorry, but I find that incredibly silly. Couldn't they have added more fossils in, like, Meteor Falls or the Safari Zone or something, instead of allowing extinct Pokemon to just freely roam around?
Wow, that's idiotic. Almost as idiotic as putting whatever evolves from those fossils somewhere else, as if waiting for the Tower to show up wasn't pointless and boring enough already.
-The Safari Zone. It seems to me that just about every "hey, I have no idea where to put this" Pokemon was thrown into the Safari Zone.
Yes. And I still want my Chansey.
-Eevee and Porygon are just randomly catchable in the wild. These things are supposed to be INCREDIBLY rare. Again, wtf.
Porygon is probably one of, if not the, most common Pokemon in that area. Eeevee on the other hand takes about 30 minutes to find on average, unless you're lucky. Anyway, I agree with you in terms of flavor, but I only wanted to play this game for the Eevees, the legendary dogs, and the legendary birds, so I don't care that much.
-So far I haven't encountered any legendaries, but it bothers me to think of where they were all stuck.
Apparently some of them are found in the Safari Zone, while the others appear to be found at sea.
By far the best addition is Diglett. Diglett absolutely breaks the game here, as nothing has been able to stand up its wrath since I got it (with the exception of Norman's hax Slaking. Goddamn Facade and Hyper Potions.)
He's also quite useful for unloading Rock Smash.
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Isn't that the Safari Zone's purpose? >_>
It starts getting weird when you can find Celebii.
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Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.
"Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde
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Also, Mewtwo and some other Legendaries are in the Safari Zone. At least a few of them are. Mew has own island as does Deoxys like they're supposed to, and some other Legendaries appear on Mirage Island too. Zapdos/Articuno/Moltres are in the Artisan Cave I think..or something.
Basically, the point of the game is be able to complete the Pokedex without sharking or trading. The core of the game is still there, regardless of where things are put. It's just something to do when bored, Kenri. After all, if you're playing Pokemon on an emulator you're breaking the purpose anyway, which is to trade and play against OTHER PEOPLE.
*Ahem* >_> I've said my piece.
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Flash Cart ftw
Though I'm not entirely sure what that is.
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Message last edited by Silvas on 8/15/2006 at 06:05:47 PM
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Cyndaquil is above Slateport, before the Cycling Road.
Torchic can be found right before Petalburg Woods, I think, and also in that Spinda infested route where all the grass is covered by ash.
Charmander is at Mt. Pyre.
Bulbasaur is at Petalburg Woods.
Bayleef is in the tall grass before the Weather Center, I don't think Chickorita is catchable.
Porygon is probably one of, if not the, most common Pokemon in that area. Eeevee on the other hand takes about 30 minutes to find on average, unless you're lucky. Anyway, I agree with you in terms of flavor, but I only wanted to play this game for the Eevees, the legendary dogs, and the legendary birds, so I don't care that much.
Yeah, I know. I take this kind of stuff way too seriously, though. >_>
Eevee is supposed to be uber-rare, nearly extinct. IIRC there are something like 5 in existence during GSC, of course that takes place 3 years after Emerald so maybe they all died in that time. <_<;
Apparently some of them are found in the Safari Zone, while the others appear to be found at sea.
Those "found at sea" ones are on Mirage Island, I believe, which is actually a pretty decent solution.
Isn't that the Safari Zone's purpose? >_>
Yeah, but I mean, Jynx? Mr. Mime? Electabuzz? Aren't there better places for them? (Electabuzz would work PERFECTLY in New Mauville, for example, and Jynx can go on that island with all the Spheal that I forget the name of. Mr. Mime could replace one of the in-game trades no one cares about, like Ralts for a Seedot. WTF, who would do that. >_>)
...Otherwise nobody would go to the desert? Eh?
Trapinch and Regirock (I think) are exclusive to the desert, so people would still go there. <_<
I didn't have anything over level 30, but my awesome Ivysaur was able to poison and seed Slaking for the win anyway. Because it's just that awesome.
Eh, my team was Primeape, Kadabra, Quilava, Sableye, and Dugtrio, and all of them go 2-3HKO'd by Facade, while Norman just used Hyper Potions whenever I did any damage. Eventually I won with Sabeye, using (I'm not even kidding) - FURY SWIPES. Because my alternatives were two Ghost moves and Detect. >_>
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You fail at Pokemon. Torchic is about as common as Wingull, and Bulbasaur is more common than Slakoth. You are using the tilde while playing, right? You'll get in an encounter every .5 seconds or so. >_>
Basically, the point of the game is be able to complete the Pokedex without sharking or trading. The core of the game is still there, regardless of where things are put. It's just something to do when bored, Kenri. After all, if you're playing Pokemon on an emulator you're breaking the purpose anyway, which is to trade and play against OTHER PEOPLE.
Yeah, but it also removes all of the challenge of completing the Pokedex. =/ Anyway, I couldn't agree more with that last line, which is also why I dislike this on principle.
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I chose him as my starter.
Torchic can be found right before Petalburg Woods, I think, and also in that Spinda infested route where all the grass is covered by ash.
Charmander is at Mt. Pyre.
Bulbasaur is at Petalburg Woods.
Bayleef is in the tall grass before the Weather Center, I don't think Chickorita is catchable.
Merci for the list, though I already knew where they were for the most part. I just haven't found them, eh?
Eevee is supposed to be uber-rare, nearly extinct. IIRC there are something like 5 in existence during GSC, of course that takes place 3 years after Emerald so maybe they all died in that time. <_<;
Perhaps after they went extinct they all found new life, Jesus-like, and decided to "hang" with some Porygons.
Those "found at sea" ones are on Mirage Island, I believe, which is actually a pretty decent solution.
That would explain it. They're also in Artisan Cave, however, whatever that is.
Trapinch and Regirock (I think) are exclusive to the desert, so people would still go there. <_<
Trapinch... maybe. But Regirock isn't in there, at least in my experience.
Eh, my team was Primeape, Kadabra, Quilava, Sableye, and Dugtrio, and all of them go 2-3HKO'd by Facade, while Norman just used Hyper Potions whenever I did any damage. Eventually I won with Sabeye, using (I'm not even kidding) - FURY SWIPES. Because my alternatives were two Ghost moves and Detect. >_>
I find it amusing that Primeape didn't last long enough to do anything. And Fury Swipes? That would be a humiliating loss.
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Also, I've heard Chikorita is catchable, it's just as rare as finding a heterosexual in the "gay" neighborhoods of San Francisco.
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Oh. >_>;;
They're also in Artisan Cave, however, whatever that is.
That's the Smeargle area on Battle Frontier Island.
I find it amusing that Primeape didn't last long enough to do anything. And Fury Swipes? That would be a humiliating loss.
Please, Primeape landed like 5 Karate Chops, but I swear Norman just had a sack of Hyper Potions to use whenever I did any damage.
Norman: Slaking is hurt! I better use a Hyper Potion!
Emerald: Oh for the love of... Dad, just fucking admit defeat already! I've brought your Slaking down to red 8 times now!
Norman: Never! And watch your language, missy.
Emerald: *sigh* Karate Chop.
Norman: *Hyper Potion*
Emerald: OH MY GOD, THAT IS SO DAMN CHEAP.
Norman: Owned.
Randomly appearing Meowth: USE THE FURY SWIPES!
Emerald: ...
Norman: ...
Emerald: Sableye, use Fury Swipes.
Norman: Hax!
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Kadabra dies to an EQ.
Dugtrio dies to an AA.
Primeape dies to an AA.
Quilava dies to an EQ.
Sableye dies an EQ.
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"Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde
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^5
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My Quilava eats Skarmories for breakfast.
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Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.
"Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde
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"I've seen her crying before. I heard the tortured crying of her heart. And to me... she sounded so lovable."
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"I've seen her crying before. I heard the tortured crying of her heart. And to me... she sounded so lovable."
END OF [TAKE] - August, 2006
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Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.
"Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde
Cubone goes where it wants. DO NOT QUESTION CUBONE.
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I beat the E4, so now I'm running around catching random stuff. I used 1337 hax to get to Birth Island and Faraway Island, and I basically cleaned out Artisan Cave/Meteor Falls/the Safari Zone (I now have 9 Chanseys, btw. Freaking whores. <_<).
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Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.
"Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde
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I've been trying to catch Registeel, but it Curses to max and then kills me while I chuck Ultra Balls. =/
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In that case, where are they? Because I searched all over the BF as soon as I beat the E4 and found no changes.
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