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ATB for RPGs is one of the worst things to ever happen to video games.
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Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 11/28/2006 7:17:26 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 001
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Up there with Dual Analogue aiming and recharging shields.
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Mega Sonic Posted: 11/28/2006 8:45:08 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 002
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It's funny how extremely wrong you are.
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Burgess Posted: 11/28/2006 9:34:15 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 003
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Juggernaut, bitch.
OFMG 2 fost, I cant caste lit3!!!

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Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 11/28/2006 11:39:27 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 004
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It's funny how extremely wrong you are.

You care to back that up? What POSSIBLE advantage does ATB have over turn-based?

OFMG 2 fost, I cant caste lit3!!!

Fast is fine. Fast is great. I love fast. In a fast game. RPGs aren't fast games. RPGs are slow. Have to navigate menus while enemies don't have to is not a good game mechanic.
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Burgess Posted: 11/28/2006 11:50:20 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 005
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Juggernaut, bitch.
Baaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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Mega Sonic Posted: 11/29/2006 12:20:54 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 006
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I'd much prefer my RPGs to be faster rather than slower.

Example: Digimon World DS. Battles are TOO SLOW

Besides, there's a reason they put the Wait option. <_<
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Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 11/29/2006 12:25:39 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 007
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I turn the Wait option on. There are still little bars that fill up in real time and the enemies still attack me while I'm trying to make a move. Seems like the Wait option doesn't work.

I'd much prefer my RPGs to be faster rather than slower.

Then play the Tales of... series, the Summon Night series, or any action RPG. Those are much faster than ATB RPGs.
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Mega Sonic Posted: 11/29/2006 12:44:59 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 008
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The Wait option only goes while you're scrolling through Menus. It does nothing on the Attack Magic Item screen.

But if you're taking more than three seconds on that screen, you fail.

And I do play those games. However, every RPG should be faster, even in turn-based combat.
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Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 11/29/2006 12:51:10 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 009
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But if you're taking more than three seconds on that screen, you fail.

I'm sorry if I like to make intelligent moves. Unlike you, apparently, it takes me more than 3 seconds to check every enemy's health, my entire team's health, which enemy to attack, whether to use magic or not, and which enemy/ally to use magic on. This is further complicated if I want to use an item, as I then need to consider whether I'll need that item later, which character to use it on, etc. Plus I need to do this for each party member.

I also like to plan out entire battles before I make my first move, which will generally take at least 20 seconds. During which time the enemy is beating on me.
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Burgess Posted: 11/29/2006 12:53:07 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 010
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Juggernaut, bitch.
I would hate to be behind you in line for anything. At all.
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Mega Sonic Posted: 11/29/2006 1:46:54 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 011
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I can do all that, but it takes me much less than twenty seconds. <_<

Really. Intelligent moves, in a RPG? 98% of the time, you're just pressing X to Attack.
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