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Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.
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IOW they couldn't find one until now. <_<
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~ Ogordemir ~
Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.
"Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde
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Anyway, my impressions on my games thus far. Keep in mind I haven't even tried Zelda or Trauma Center because I've been having too much fun* with DBZ Budokai Tenkaichi 2: The Quest For A Longer, Less English Sounding Title.
And by "fun", I mean HOLY CRAP THIS GAME IS HARD.
To be fair, it is EXACTLY like the show. The villain beats on you for like 90% of the match, you probably lose several times, and finally win just barely due to what seems like divine intervention. The enemies also get massive power ups out of no where.
The story seems to be fairly accurate to the anime, except they started at the Saiyan Saga at the beginning of DBZ instead of starting with the far superior Dragon Ball. And before someone says "stfu, DBZ may suck, but the Saiyan Saga was awesome"...
No.
It wasn't.
It sucked just as much as the rest of DBZ.
Except Goku vs. Freeza, that was just epic levels of suck that are only matched by the entirety of DBGT.
Elebits is SO DAMN ADORABLE. You'll see a shoe or something shaking, you pick it up, the Elebit goes "!" (this is Konami after all), and it runs off, and you follow it, and trap it in a corner, and it starts crying before you zap it. SO. FREAKING. CUTE.
I want a pet Elebit.
Wii Sports is a mixed bag to say the least: Bowling is fun if overly simple, Boxing is a big workout and probably my favorite game, Tennis sucks, Baseball sucks, and I haven't tried Golf. The boxing portion does make me want to see a sequel to Punch-Out!!, but that's nothing new. I've been wanting a Punch-Out!! sequel for quite a while now. <_<
So yeah, those're my impressions so far.
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I tried to watch it, and it just...killed me inside.
Oh, and Tennis is awesome, from the 10 minutes of it I played.
*sigh* I'll find one eventually...
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Oh wow the Dragon Ball characters got shafted.
Yajirobe has like one tenth the health of everyone from DBZ, and can't deal any damage. At all. And is killed by like four attacks.
I'm somehow still managing to win, which is a testament to how badass Yajirobe is.
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This whole "no matter what you do in the battle, the plot is the same" thing is really bothering me.
Battle: Krillin, Tien, Piccolo, Gohan, Chiaotzu vs. Nappa
Me: *beats the CRAP out of Nappa with Krillin, never even having to use a second character*
Game: UNABLE TO FACE THE OVERWHELMING MIGHT OF NAPPA, TIEN AND CIAOTZU MEET THEIR TRAGIC END!
Me: ...What the FUCK.
Next battle: Krillin, Piccolo, Gohan vs. Slightly Stronger Nappa
Nevermind he got stronger after getting his ass kicked, that's DBZ for you...
Me: Lol, you again? *kicks ass with Krillin*
Nappa: No u. *large, Japanesey attack*
Krillin: NOOO
Me: The enemy's weakened! Go, Piccolo!
Piccolo used SPECIAL BEAM CANNON!
It's super effective!
Enemy Nappa runs out the clock!
Game: FACED BY NAPPA'S OVERWHELMING MIGHT, PICCOLO IS FORCED TO SACRIFICE HIMSELF TO SAVE GOHAN!
Me: ...Oh HELL no.
THE SAGA CONTINUES!
Next battle: Gohan and Krillin vs. Really weak Nappa
Me: Okay, so I've already proven I can kick Nappa's ass with Krillin... But I might as well use Gohan, since the game seems to want me to.
Gohan: *slaughters Nappa*
Game: GOHAN FOUGHT WITH ALL HIS MIGHT BUT WAS UNABLE TO DEFEAT NAPPA!
Me: ...
Game: WILL GOKU ARRIVE IN TIME?
Goku: Yes.
Nappa: Vegeta, what does the scouter say about his power level?
Vegeta: ...IT'S OVER NINE THOUSAAAAAAAAND!
Nappa: WHAT?! NINE THOUSAND?!
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Message last edited by Kenri of the Yuri on 1/22/2007 at 08:27:55 PM
Message last edited by Kenri of the Yuri on 1/22/2007 at 08:35:26 PM
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This game is REALLY, REALLY fun. The fighting system is amazing, and even though it can feel cheap at times, that's more because of a lack of skill with dodging/countering/whatever than it is due to cheating AI. And the game just feels good. The controls are wonderful - for example, to do a Kamehameha, you hold Z and B and pull the Wiimote back, then thrust it forward. Anyone who's ever seen the show will instantly commit this to memory, as opposed to the "Half circle forward forward back up A B B B A B back back forward" nonsense present in most 2D fighters.
Plus, the fights just feel so much more... "epic" than other fighters. In lots of other fighters, the opponent will collapse as soon as their health hits 0, even if it's from just a small jab. While it's POSSIBLE to do this in DBZBT2, it won't happen often - most of your matches end after a smash attack and/or Ultimate Blast, which just feels so much better. It makes you want to say "Haha, he won't be going home to his kids." or some such thing, as opposed to "Oh, the fight's over? ...Next."
It's certainly not my favorite fighting game (that "honor" goes to SSBM, followed by Soul Calibur II), but it's definitely getting close.
Oh, and one last thought: as terrible as DBZ's story is, it's terrible for a TV show. Games, in general, have much worse stories than just about any other medium. It's no Baten Kaitos, Phoenix Wright, Contact, or 9:05 in the story department, but it can tangle with, say, the Sonic series.
8/10 so far.
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I have to beat it one day. <_<
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The many battles with Freeza have lead me to a few conclusions.
1. Freeza is a ****ing hacker.
2. Death Beam is really, really, REALLY hax, and must be avoided at all cost.
3. Freeza, being the ****ing hacker that he is, spams Death Beam constantly.
4. The game likes to interpret movement as guarding. This is VERY annoying when you're trying to escape the aforementioned Death Beam, which can't be blocked.
5. The Spirit Bomb is completely useless in every way. It uses 3 Blast Stock, requires you to make yourself COMPLETELY vulnerable for about 10 seconds, and then the thing won't even hit. And if they launch a beam attack (say, a Death Beam) while you're throwing the Spirit Bomb, you'll be hit first since the Spirit Bomb is SOOO SLOW and the Bomb will be destroyed.
6. The Freeza Saga really, REALLY sucks. It sucks more than a prostitute mosquito with a new vaccuum.
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Well, sorta.
See, my sister bet me that I couldn't go the 8 or so odd days without internet OR video games. The internet was easy, I didn't have a choice. The video games... I mean, I just got my Wii. Zelda was waiting to be played. It was sitting there, calling to me. But I have more than enough will power to avoid being addicted to things. *sips a Diet Coke*
Needless to say, I won the bet. However, it nearly killed me. No internet and no video games make Kenri something something.
"Go crazy?"
DON'T MIND IF I DO!
Anyway, I unlocked a "What If?" scenario in DBZ today. These are unlocked when you defeat an enemy who is supposedly "unbeatable" - in other words, when first fighting them, your level will be, like, 8, and theirs will be 287 or something similar. And they have rubberband AI out the wazoo.
Anyway, the very first battle in the game is Piccolo vs. Raditz. Raditz is supposed to be unbeatable, but my level 60 Piccolo easily killed him. So onto the What If scenario!
If you've seen DBZ, you know doubt remember the beginning of the Saiyan Saga - if not, turn back, there are spoilers coming. Raditz arrives on Earth, and Piccolo battles him. Piccolo is easily beaten, and Raditz seeks out Goku. Goku is beaten too, but Piccolo and him team up, putting aside their differences (remember, Piccolo was the main enemy up till now) to defeat Raditz. In the battle, Goku grapples Raditz and tells Piccolo to kill them both with his Special Beam Cannon. And thus Raditz is defeated, but Goku dies in the process.
If, however, Piccolo defeated Raditz, what would happen? Apparently, Raditz would summon a Saibaman (exploding green critter), and it would, predictably, explode. However, Raditz is hurt by the blast more than Piccolo, and loses his memory. He flees to Kame House, but Piccolo follows him.
Now, if your arch-nemesis arrived, shouting about how a wounded man, who was currently cowering, was evil and must be killed, who would you side with? Yeah. So Goku and Raditz team up and fight off Piccolo, who swears to kill Goku someday. Goku lets Raditz stay at Kame House until he recovers - and that's as far as I've gotten.
I must say, it's a VERY cool idea. I kind of wish the whole game were like this, instead of me kicking an enemy's ass only to be killed during a cutscene.
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But I do expect the game to at least TRY to mask its cheating - when you bottom deal, people often can't tell you're bottom dealing until they notice their cards are bent. In the same light, as long as I don't realize the game is cheating until I'm told that no one can perform a certain trick, and it's not just that I can't, I'm more willing to forgive it than when I catch the game red-handed.
And up till now, DBZBT2 has been pretty good in this category. It _may_ be cheating in certain cases, like when it blocks with amazingly high accuracy, but maybe I also have a tell. The thing is, when a character flies through a mountain to hit me with an attack that will kill me, or my attacks myseriously stop damaging the opponent altogether, or the camera returns from one of my character's Ultimate Blast cutscenes only to get helplessly trapped in the back of Trunks' head, I DO get pissed, and it makes me want to throw my Wiimote through my television.
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Message last edited by Kenri of the Yuri on 2/4/2007 at 01:52:50 AM
Juggernaut, bitch.
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Omega Shenron: RAWR I AM ALL POWERFUL
Goku: To defeat him I'll need all the power in the universe!
Universe: No sweat.
Omega Shenron: RAWR I AM STILL ALL POWERFUL
Goku: Oh man, he's too strong.
Vegeta: I'LL DEFEAT HIM!
Goku: ...How did you get to SSJ4 without going through SSJ3?
Vegeta: I used a Pokemon Breeder.
Goku: ...Also, what makes you think you can beat him? Every time you show up acting all gung-ho and boasting about how strong you are, you get your ass kicked. Every. Single. Time.
Vegeta: Name ONE time that's happened!
Goku: Um, Frieza, Frieza, Cell, Cell, Cell, Cooler, Broly, Buu, Buu, Buu, 18, 17, Super 17...
Vegeta: Stop.
Goku: Really? I had more.
Vegeta: We need to fuse.
Goku: :D
Vegeta: ...What are you smiling about?
Goku: I'm just... happy. This is the first time you've ever asked me to fuse.
Vegeta: ...
Goku: Vegeta, this is going to be amazing.*
Vegeta: I NEED AN ADULT! I NEED AN ADULT!
Goku and Vegeta: FYU... SHUN... HAAAA!
Omega Shenron: Who the hell are you?
Gogeta: PISSED OFF.
Omega Shenron: NOES.
Goku and Vegeta: wtf. Why'd we unfuse?
Omega Shenron: Because you touch-
Suddenly, Omega Shenron was destroyed by... oh, let's say, Tapion.
*ACTUAL LINE FROM THE GAME. Yeah, that's not creepy at all.
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