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| Kenri of the Yuri | Posted: 3/1/2007 11:31:22 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 001 |
| Level: 43 Editor | *pours a packet of Instant Controversy into a glass of water* *stirs up some Controversy* Catholicism: 0 Christianity: 0 Orthodox Christianity: 1 Judaism: 0 Buddhism: 0 Islam: 0 Hinduism: 0 Shinto: 0 Taoism: 0 Confucianism: 0 Pagan: 0 Agnosticism: 0 Atheism: 1 Other: 0 Some very mainstream religion I forgot: 0 Go. Feel free to get into a very heated argument about why your religion is the correct one, it's why I made this topic. --- "There are times when destiny calls forth a people and demands an action. Now is the time. We are the people. This is our action. Charge!" ~Eladamri, Lord of Leaves Message last edited by Kenri of the Yuri on 3/1/2007 at 07:11:42 AM |
| Ogordemir99 | Posted: 3/1/2007 11:50:18 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 002 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | My religion isn't listed, jackass! ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt. "Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde |
| Kenri of the Yuri | Posted: 3/1/2007 12:07:22 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 003 |
| Level: 43 Editor | Yes it is. It's either "Other" or "Some very mainstream religion I forgot". <_< --- "There are times when destiny calls forth a people and demands an action. Now is the time. We are the people. This is our action. Charge!" ~Eladamri, Lord of Leaves |
| Ogordemir99 | Posted: 3/1/2007 12:08:22 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 004 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Orthodox Christianity > Christianity > Catholicism And don't you forget it! ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt. "Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde |
| Kenri of the Yuri | Posted: 3/1/2007 12:11:12 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 005 |
| Level: 43 Editor | Most things > Christianity > Catholicism I was going to guess Romanian Orthodox, btw. >_> --- "There are times when destiny calls forth a people and demands an action. Now is the time. We are the people. This is our action. Charge!" ~Eladamri, Lord of Leaves |
| Ogordemir99 | Posted: 3/1/2007 12:16:02 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 006 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Eastern Orthodox, Romanian Orthodox... when it comes down to it the only thing that's different is there's more gypsies in the latter. EDIT - For some reason I said Western Orthodox. :\ ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt. "Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde Message last edited by Silvas on 3/1/2007 at 10:08:33 PM |
| Rock Badger | Posted: 3/2/2007 1:01:41 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 007 |
| Level: 30 Legend | Thelema FTW. |
| xp1337 | Posted: 3/2/2007 1:59:45 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 008 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | n00bs. Catholicism > Christianity At least the Pope acknowledges that Evolution and Religion aren't mutually exclusive. Well, Pope John Paul II did at the very least. Not to say there aren't problems within the Church. All that said, "Other"/"Agnosticism" Even I don't fully understand what I believe. >_> --- xp1337: Your former local puppet admin. "This is the light of my soul, a sacred territory upon which no one may intrude." - Kaworu, NGE. |
| Kenri of the Yuri | Posted: 3/2/2007 2:04:11 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 009 |
| Level: 43 Editor | Even I don't fully understand what I believe. >_> Welcome to religion. --- "There are times when destiny calls forth a people and demands an action. Now is the time. We are the people. This is our action. Charge!" ~Eladamri, Lord of Leaves |
| Ogordemir99 | Posted: 3/2/2007 2:38:39 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 010 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Catholicism > Christianity Not if Christianity contains Lutheranism etc. Catholicism just sucks without the Protestant reformations. ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt. "Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde |
| xp1337 | Posted: 3/2/2007 2:41:31 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 011 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | True enough, but I obviously meant Modern Catholicism. Modern Catholicism > Modern Protestantism And my Modern Protestantism, I mainly mean what the majority of the US is. Not necessarily some elements within the Protestant movement. If I new more about Modern Orthodox, I could include them, but... =/ --- xp1337: Your former local puppet admin. "This is the light of my soul, a sacred territory upon which no one may intrude." - Kaworu, NGE. |
| Ogordemir99 | Posted: 3/2/2007 3:08:05 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 012 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Modern Catholicism is code for "the religion where the only thing anybody really believes for sure is that Jesus is awesome and the Pope has a cool car". My opposition to Catholicism is derived from its inability to define itself in any way other than the power hierarchy. Eastern Orthodox religions are the most lax authoritarian religions that still go by the old rituals of Christianity: the priests rely on an individual's faith in the religion, which is usually very strong, and generally avoid applying any sort of pressure on an individual outside of simple pressures such as "come to church now plx" and "don't be a Mormon". Hence they are winner. ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt. "Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde |
| xp1337 | Posted: 3/2/2007 3:10:15 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 013 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | ...Yeah, but do they have a cool car? I think not. --- xp1337: Your former local puppet admin. "This is the light of my soul, a sacred territory upon which no one may intrude." - Kaworu, NGE. |
| Ogordemir99 | Posted: 3/2/2007 3:11:21 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 014 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | No. But they have really neat hats. ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt. "Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde |
| Rock Badger | Posted: 3/3/2007 4:58:22 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 015 |
| Level: 30 Legend | So how then does the Eastern Orthodox Church distinguish itself? Through adherence to old rituals? Like the seven sacraments, less the Popery and party hats? |
| Ogordemir99 | Posted: 3/3/2007 6:24:15 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 016 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | The Orthodox Church is like a Protestant church stuck in 1327. ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt. "Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde |
| Rock Badger | Posted: 3/3/2007 9:31:53 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 017 |
| Level: 30 Legend | Which didn't yet exist, if you're going by Luther and I don't know who else you would. Not that that means anything, since I know so little about theology. The Greek Orthodox Church had the Hagia Sophia, which was pretty cool. And now it has Will Kinnas, which is even better. |
| Ogordemir99 | Posted: 3/3/2007 9:55:21 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 018 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Not that that means anything You're right. It doesn't. The Orthodox Church was the result of a split between those in the Christian Church who favored a strong central ruler - a Pope - and those who thought that was just generally a bad idea. Luther was a Catholic who had the same opinion several hundred years later. ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt. "Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde |
| Rock Badger | Posted: 3/4/2007 5:05:48 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 019 |
| Level: 30 Legend | Pfft. Christianity itself is generally a bad idea. Christianity is the strangest religion ever set up, for it committed a murder upon Jesus in order to redeem mankind from the sin of eating an apple So yeah, that's ample evidence for the disproof of all forms of Christianity, evar. |
| Ogordemir99 | Posted: 3/4/2007 7:05:08 PM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 020 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | So yeah, that's ample evidence for the disproof of all forms of Christianity, evar. I'd imagine that'd be even more true if what you said were actually accurate. ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt. "Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde |
| Rock Badger | Posted: 3/5/2007 12:18:41 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 021 |
| Level: 30 Legend | If what I said were true it would be more true than how true it currently is, which isn't very true? Maybe. Anyway . . . has anyone here read any comparative religion? Namely, Joseph Campbell? It's pretty gnarley, even though he posits Freudian psychology as the origin of many of the shared aspects of religions. |
| Ogordemir99 | Posted: 3/5/2007 12:31:18 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 022 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | If what I said were true it would be more true than how true it currently is, which isn't very true? Maybe. Yes. Maybe. ...has anyone here read any comparative religion? All scientific religious studies are bound to turn up the fact that religion is a human fabrication. Therefore no, I don't care. ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt. "Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde |
| Rock Badger | Posted: 3/5/2007 2:09:57 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 023 |
| Level: 30 Legend | All scientific religious studies are bound to turn up the fact that religion is a human fabrication. Therefore no, I don't care. Examination of your beliefs makes them more valuable. Saying, "Pah! I've already decided that I am entirely right, and refuse to consider anything that might support the contrary!" puts you in the same league as GW, or most of Mormonia (and a certain Mormona with whom you're familiar). |
| Ogordemir99 | Posted: 3/5/2007 2:14:38 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 024 |
| Level: 49 Liberal Arts Major | Scientific religious study is biased against religion from the onset. I personally have examined my beliefs and arrived at what I believe is a satisfying conclusion. ___ ~ Ogordemir ~ Buddha promised me Nirvana and all I got was this lousy T-shirt. "Democracy is the bludgeoning of the people, by the people, for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde |
| Rock Badger | Posted: 3/5/2007 3:26:43 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 025 |
| Level: 30 Legend | Scientific religious study is biased against religion from the onset. Of course it's biased, as is everything (including rocks and plants), but as an independent mind the reader can take this into account and arrive at what possible truths may lay behind an author's assertions. I personally have examined my beliefs and arrived at what I believe is a satisfying conclusion. Constant, deep examination of your religion is far more reverent than stagnant faith. Anyway, although we can't explain the entirety of our experiences and how they've led to our beliefs, maybe you'd like to share why you're so sure of yours? |
| Kenri of the Yuri | Posted: 3/5/2007 5:32:53 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 026 |
| Level: 43 Editor | Relevant to our interests: http://www.newyorker.com/printables/shouts/050926sh_shouts --- "There are times when destiny calls forth a people and demands an action. Now is the time. We are the people. This is our action. Charge!" ~Eladamri, Lord of Leaves |
| Rock Badger | Posted: 3/6/2007 12:49:39 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 027 |
| Level: 30 Legend | Bong rips. |
| legend789 | Posted: 3/18/2007 12:43:00 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 028 |
| Level: 30 Legend | The Orthodox Church was the result of a split between those in the Christian Church who favored a strong central ruler - a Pope - and those who thought that was just generally a bad idea. Luther was a Catholic who had the same opinion several hundred years later. *Sees "Luther was a Catholic"* = O Did you know that Jesus was a Jew? All scientific religious studies are bound to turn up the fact that religion is a human fabrication. Therefore no, I don't care. That's why Dmons are cooler then humans = ] They don't have religions and they torture humans for having religions. --- Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands! - Auron (FFX) |
| Link Dude | Posted: 3/18/2007 6:24:30 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 029 |
| Level: 7 Provisional | Islam, no contradictions in that one. --- You suck! -Crowd Your mother taught me how! -Kurt Angle |
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