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So, what, does like ns own the Flux or something?
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Link Dude Posted: 11/27/2011 2:39:31 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 001
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The last time I talked to him on IM he was ranting about how it was stolen from him and how people here pissed him off enough to leave. What's that about?
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 11/27/2011 3:18:33 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 002
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was that like

seven years ago
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Link Dude Posted: 11/27/2011 3:23:19 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 003
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Nope, like two
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xp1337 Posted: 11/27/2011 3:24:59 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 004
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Ogor would know more than I would about the topic title. As for the latter, it's been a really long time, so I don't recall the details. But IIRC, most of the at-the-time user base got pretty divided on some of the site decisions that were going on. ...I want to say TFN kept moving around and eventually it got to a point where quite a number of people were complaining they wanted it to stop, and ns got blamed for it occurring and there were a bunch of flame wars... and I want to say the end result was that TFN was actually pretty much shut down for a while. ...Until Ogor revived it some time later and a few of us found our way back here again.

...Again, Ogor might know more. Or perhaps Kenri, my memory is awful. ...I know I was here for that whole situation, I just can't remember any of it anymore.
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xp1337 Posted: 11/27/2011 3:26:22 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 005
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...Oh, I'm really late.

However, what I'm referring to is almost certainly what Ogor means by "like seven years ago."

...I... actually don't recall anything involving ns in the last two years. ...I'm not even sure I've seen ns around in the last two years.
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 11/27/2011 3:30:09 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 006
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ns has posted maybe twice in the last two years. If I were to guess, I would guess LD is on drugs.

For the record, I have always owned TFN, and have always been responsible for the hosting/domain bills. ns was the primary developer until he wasn't.
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Link Dude Posted: 11/27/2011 3:33:48 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 007
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Oh. Well, I hope who I talked to was ns. Also this is going to sound stupid, but is there an actual DSB board on this site? I keep hearing about the DSBers and either they're the users that I already see post or it's a board I can't find.
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 11/27/2011 3:36:11 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 008
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Actually, to expand more on what happened, ns tried to do a bunch of cool stuff that the userbase didn't really appreciate, and I eventually said fuck y'all and left the site for a while but still paid hosting and so on and then at some point I stopped paying? I actually don't remember. But the original domain expired at some point, so I obviously didn't renew it.

Then Tiger got hosting for one reason or another at some point, during which period he got my Adsense account murdered after I foolishly decided to let him use it for his website - costing me the $70 I had on Adsense already and several years of potential revenue, but hey, whatever - and then we hosted TFN on his webspace, reopening on April Fool's Day for the lolz. Then while I was in Romania Tiger lost his shit and I bought my own hosting and relocated the site.

Then I eventually got the original domain back.

Well, I hope who I talked to was ns.

It was probably a lamp.

Also this is going to sound stupid, but is there an actual DSB board on this site? I keep hearing about the DSBers and either they're the users that I already see post or it's a board I can't find.

It's a board you need DSB membership to access. Basically, Scorp asked me to make a private place for the DSB people from GameFAQs to post, so I did. It's one of two such boards.
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"The sciences have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." ~ H.P Lovecraft, The Call of Cthulhu
xp1337 Posted: 11/27/2011 3:37:41 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 009
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The DSB does, in fact, exist as a board on TFN. However, it's only open to certain users, no one else can get in unless you ask Ogor/Scorp and they let you in. So, while it's on TFN, it's in a number of ways kind of "separate" (but not really).

It comes up occasionally because I think they contribute like 90% of TFN's total activity. (As you can tell by my vague guessing I'm not in it so I don't know for sure what the activity level is over there. If I really cared to figure it out, I could keep track of new posts/topics over a couple of days and figure out how many are coming from there, but there's no real point to doing that)
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 11/27/2011 3:39:12 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 010
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On most days, the DSB constitutes all of TFN's activity. They used to be a lot more active, but so did everyone else.
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Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 11/27/2011 3:48:21 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 011
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ns tried to do a bunch of cool stuff that the userbase didn't really appreciate

To clarify further, from what I recall, the breaking point was the "merge" between TFN and Gensou, which came after a long string of site relocations and forced re-registrations and other assorted bullshit, and was a "merge" much in the same way the United States "merged" with Hawaii in 1959.

Dr. Definition sez: It's not a merge when you just tell the entirety of one site to go make accounts on another one! That's more like spam, except at gunpoint.

I honestly don't think anyone here has a problem with ns aside from that one situation.
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Link Dude Posted: 11/27/2011 3:53:11 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 012
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It was definitely someone who knew what had happened before I even registered on the Flux, a YSBer at some point, and a likely a former mod. Also I would like DSB access if it wouldn't be too much trouble, the lack of activity on this site is depressing at times. And you should totally make me a mod.
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xp1337 Posted: 11/27/2011 3:54:16 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 013
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Yeah, I remember the whole proposed site merge thing, and that was what caused everything to "go to hell" you might say, IIRC. ...That may have also happened after Ogor "left" making ns the de facto leader of the site, which probably caused more problems (not ns being in charge, but the fact that ns was both in charge and advocating that (unpopular) merge)

...I want to say after that, ns also left... and if Ogor wasn't around then, that probably left TFN without any actual "leadership." But maybe Ogor was here then and I don't know what I'm talking about!
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 11/27/2011 3:57:29 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 014
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Oh yeah, Gensou. That move was stupid!

You know, ns basically killed TFN by doing that. Everything was fine until then. We had users. I had a functioning Adsense account, from which I actually received actual money. Then he fucked it up, the site died, and I lost ALL OF MY INCOME GOD DAMMIT.

I probably should have been more involved in the leadership considering I had the sole financial stake, but I had no expertise in development so I simply trusted ns. This was a bad decision. 14 year-olds with no business sense should not try to run expensive websites.

It was definitely someone who knew what had happened before I even registered on the Flux, a YSBer at some point, and a likely a former mod.

"Lamp" seems more plausible.

Also I would like DSB access if it wouldn't be too much trouble, the lack of activity on this site is depressing at times. And you should totally make me a mod.

I'm not making you a mod unless at some point I decide to make everyone a mod.

Ask Scorp for DSB access. He's the one who administrates that; I'm basically just the host.

But maybe Ogor was here then and I don't know what I'm talking about!

Even if I was here, I obviously failed to rally against that stupid Gensou bullshit. But I don't think I was too actively involved in the site anyway.
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"The sciences have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." ~ H.P Lovecraft, The Call of Cthulhu
xp1337 Posted: 11/27/2011 3:59:12 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 015
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It was definitely someone who knew what had happened before I even registered on the Flux, a YSBer at some point, and a likely a former mod.

I'm not sure that narrows it down too much. I think most of the former mods of that time are the current mods now (that is to say, everyone - definitely Ogor, Kenri, and myself, I believe.) There were a few people who were mods then but just simply aren't here now, but not too many I think.
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 11/27/2011 4:00:37 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 016
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Burgess, for instance. But he obviously wouldn't say anything like this.

It should be observed that Burgess once offered to help pay for hosting.
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"The sciences have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." ~ H.P Lovecraft, The Call of Cthulhu
Link Dude Posted: 11/27/2011 4:01:21 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 017
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I'm glad you're having fun with this, but I'm a little concerned that some old user is going to come back and do stupid shit. And that's harsh man, I've become a much better poster recently.
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 11/27/2011 4:02:09 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 018
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No old user is ever coming back.
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Link Dude Posted: 11/27/2011 4:02:39 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 019
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It was definitely someone who knew what had happened before I even registered on the Flux, a YSBer at some point, and a likely a former mod.

I'm not sure that narrows it down too much. I think most of the former mods of that time are the current mods now (that is to say, everyone - definitely Ogor, Kenri, and myself, I believe.) There were a few people who were mods then but just simply aren't here now, but not too many I think.


Like I said, likely a former mod. Could just be some asshat with too much time.
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 11/27/2011 4:03:36 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 020
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I've become a much better poster recently.

This is true, actually, but if I make you a mod, then there are 8 active mods and at that point I have no good justification for not just making everyone a mod.
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Link Dude Posted: 11/27/2011 4:06:42 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 021
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Yeah I suppose it really just is me, Kodan, and the mods.
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xp1337 Posted: 11/27/2011 4:07:17 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 022
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and at that point I have no good justification for not just making everyone a mod.

And the last time we went through a "make everyone a [user level with advanced privileges]" thing half the boards got deleted until Scorp and I (mostly Scorp, IIRC, he reacted more quickly, but I believe the two of us were on when it was happening) stopped it. >_>
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 11/27/2011 4:08:37 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 023
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Well, that was because everyone was an admin, whereas level 41 or whatever mods have basically no power. So.
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xp1337 Posted: 11/27/2011 4:11:17 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 024
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Well, yeah, that was the main problem. However, after that whole annoyance, I wouldn't be surprised if promoting everyone to mod resulted in someone appearing out of nowhere trying to mod a bunch of posts.

It'd be trivial to fix, but just so annoying. >_>
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 11/27/2011 4:12:43 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 025
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That person would then be demoted, which if everyone else is a mod, would make him like the nerd sitting alone at the back of the bus with everyone laughing at him.

This is a bus full of nerds, too, so you can only imagine how nerdy that guy is.
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"The sciences have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." ~ H.P Lovecraft, The Call of Cthulhu
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xp1337 Posted: 11/27/2011 4:15:00 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 026
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I meant it'd just be annoying to overturn all the moderations. Easy, but annoying. Demoting people is how we've solved every attempt at people trying to mess with TFN! It's just some things require us to do a little more work to fix things than others!
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 11/27/2011 4:16:05 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 027
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Hm, I could probably overturn them all from the database with a single query. I'm not entirely sure how that works though.
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Link Dude Posted: 11/27/2011 4:16:27 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 028
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You should take Kenri's suggestion and demote MS. Then take my suggestion and make me a mod <_<
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Ogordemir99 Posted: 11/27/2011 4:19:15 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 029
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I was unaware this suggestion had been made.
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Kenri of the Yuri Posted: 11/27/2011 4:24:27 AM UTC | Message Detail | Filter | Author Profile | # 030
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i have campaigned on a firmly anti-ms platform since day one

i don't think link dude is the answer though

if there was some way to make me, like, a double mod, that would probably solve it
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